IlluminEddie wrote:It's going to be interesting that we're going to get two records full of non-political tunes. Wonder what the motivation is there...
I suspect that it got tiresome for even them
I wonder if they would've tired of it had Romney been elected. Seems rare for such a politically motivated band to not write political songs for 8 years around one person's presidency, is all. Maybe... just maybe... that's why PJ didn't want to get back into the studio to finish the album until 2013? They wanted to know who won the election first....then decide on the theme?
IlluminEddie wrote:It's going to be interesting that we're going to get two records full of non-political tunes. Wonder what the motivation is there...
I suspect that it got tiresome for even them
I wonder if they would've tired of it had Romney been elected. Seems rare for such a politically motivated band to not write political songs for 8 years around one person's presidency, is all. Maybe... just maybe... that's why PJ didn't want to get back into the studio to finish the album until 2013? They wanted to know who won the election first....then decide on the theme?
You are saying eddie doesnt wanna get involved in obama´s politics because he supported him?
dimejinky99 wrote:
He's singing within his register
No screeching. No screaming.
I think you may want to listen to the latter parts of Lightning Bolt before readdressing the above statement(s).
oh it sounds so good there. Same at the end of MYM. It is a great exclamation point. I can see being turned off if it is the entire song (ala johnny guitar, for instance)
To be fair it's just the "thoughts will soon arrIIIIIIVE" part that's grating me at the moment. I like the concept, just don't think it's "in his register" any more. Maybe I'd have preferred a more conservative delivery of that part on record and wouldn't have minded if he wanted to put his nuts on the block a bit more for that bit when played live.
I think that bit at the end of lightning bolt sounds rough . No god with such Miiiieeeeaaaghhhhtttssghthg*coughs up a lung*
Dear Stupidmop,
If you are going to continue to shit on everything I love, then please attach an avatar to your account. You have 1300 posts for fuck's sake.
I guess when Obama got elected, the nemesis was gone for Ed. Then his new nemesis started taking shape (religious fanaticism). Realistically all I ask is that they write honest songs and whats true to them and they seem to do that with their various themes. Whatever is occupying Ed's brainspace the most at any given time.
Coach wrote:when I was a pre-teen and teen, listening to Alive, Release, etc....I really had no idea what those songs were about, but still loved them.
while I appreciate lyrics more now, I can still dig a tune based on the sound of the song, not the message.
Me too. I fall in love with the tune first, lyrics are not that important.
I just reject this idea that if he's not writing explicitly about something it means he obviously supports it. When he was so anti-Bush, it was because he had inherent values, and two of them were anti-conolialism and anti-war. I really don't think he's suddenly going to love those things just because Obama has changed his tune, but neither is he obligated to write about it.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
sward wrote:I guess when Obama got elected, the nemesis was gone for Ed. Then his new nemesis started taking shape (religious fanaticism). Realistically all I ask is that they write honest songs and whats true to them and they seem to do that with their various themes. Whatever is occupying Ed's brainspace the most at any given time.
I think we agree that we want him to write about what's true to him/them. My thing is: Just Breathe and The End were perfect for that, yet they get shat on here for some reason. Let's face it, Ed's over 50, writing about death and leaving your loved one's seems very "true". I'd argue Backspacer was "very true". Lots of people don't like that truth.
Basing an album on who's President, kinda doesn't. seem so "true". And when your guy gets in, writing about religious fanaticism (and completely ignoring all other issues) seems almost like a scape goating to me, that's all.
I'm an unenrolled voter (it's what we call "independent voters" in MA) and a Catholic, and while I disagree with Ed's messages on some songs, I can't fault him for targeting religious fanatics.
For example, even though I'm Catholic, I support a woman's right to an abortion and, of course, I am all for gay marriage.
But I think Ed takes exception with those who do not make exceptions due to religious "rules."
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Coach wrote:Stone's only song credit is Let the records play? What?
i believe matt has none. I wonder if stone brought in more songs or if he really saved his favorites for Moonlander and Brad. I was skeptical of that argument before. Now I'm less so.
I guess if you've got a solo album coming out, that's natural... I don't really blame him for it.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
IlluminEddie wrote:It's going to be interesting that we're going to get two records full of non-political tunes. Wonder what the motivation is there...
Are you a full-time conspiracy theorist or do you have a day job?
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
Coach wrote:when I was a pre-teen and teen, listening to Alive, Release, etc....I really had no idea what those songs were about, but still loved them.
while I appreciate lyrics more now, I can still dig a tune based on the sound of the song, not the message.
gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?
gardenparty wrote:that clip calls to mind mikes usual songwriting style ala Inside Job and Turning Mist. Basic open chords and dull progression. What am i missing here?
That this doesn't sound as bad as either of those songs, plus Ed will be writing and singing over it rather than him. It's instantly better for those reasons alone.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
