Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[Heathen]

http://www.clashmusic.com/features/album-preview-pearl-jams-lightning-bolt

it says My Father's Son is a punk song? That's new/

I'm positive that a lot of this band's commercial downfall is attributable to shoddy journalism. Everyone writes terribly about Pearl Jam except for Jorge Farah.

not just about Pearl Jam though

[stupidmop]

The penultimate ‘Yellow Man’, too, manages to convey this fluency between each member’s role, the despair-soaked vocals reflecting the lead guitar’s tone.

One can only hope.

To be fair we don't know what my father's son really sounds like. Though you'd think they'd mention the spoken word bits.

[VinylGuy]

Backspacer had some political songs ...they were less obvious than Bushleaguer...But even a song like, lets say, Glorified G or WMA is political.

Mind your manners is political too...and seems a lot of what he is writing is hinted that way....

Can you point me to the political songs on Backspacer?

I said about 2 or 3 on most albums are political. I don't see it on Backspacer at all, which to me, may be one reason why I like Backspacer.

well, The fixer was released around the time Obama got into office...a lot of people thought it was about him too. It isnt and eddie himself told a different story, but i can see it as a political song too, like mind your manners is a political song.
My point is: Ed writes from a socio-political point of view most of the times. Even if he is clearly making a point ( wws/bushleaguer) or if the whole point is more subtext oriented.
He was more direct with his lyrics during the bush administration, perhaps because he felt it was worse than this one or the previous Clinton one...or because he felt he needed to be as direct as he could to get the message out there.

Nah, I don't see The Fixer as a political song. I know that Ed writes from a socio-political POV. That's kinda my point.

Also, I don't see a need for everyone to constantly harp on Bushleaguer as their political song. Look at Evenflow or Glorified G for other examples.

What the actual fuck? You mean to say that Evenflow is political but Mind Your Manners isn't?

Yes, Mind Your Manners is about religion, not a political issue - like homelessness and how to deal with that. If Mind Your Manners was a political issue, there would be a policy-related to it. Welfare is the policy related to evenflow IMO.

Religion isn't a political issue. Right. Have a nice day, I'm not doing this anymore.

There's no policy-related intent behind the message IMO.

Edit - Other than to avoid talking about Obama.

But he may not be avoiding it...he may be a obama supporter. That´s what i was telling you before...he may believe in him as a president...

or you need Ed to write ObamaLeaguer to know what he thinks about him?

Nope, I think there are realms of issues to get upset about that don't involve calling anyone out by name. Yet, I'd prefer he avoids politics altogether. My bet - if an R comes in in 2016 and wins, we'll hear more political stuff. I can't wait for more of Ed's views on geo-politics... that's for sure.

What I don't understand is the fanboi-type defense of this stuff. There's no need. You can be pro-Obama, you can be pro-PJ, you can be pro-Ed AND you can say - "yeh, he's probably just avoiding talking politics because he's an Obama cheerleader." Nothing is lost in saying all of the above.

but i said that...in the same post.

LOOK:

But he may not be avoiding it...he may be a obama supporter. That´s what i was telling you before...he may believe in him as a president...

[harmless]

'Yellow Man?'

[harmless]

http://www.clashmusic.com/features/album-preview-pearl-jams-lightning-bolt

it says My Father's Son is a punk song? That's new/

I'm positive that a lot of this band's commercial downfall is attributable to shoddy journalism. Everyone writes terribly about Pearl Jam except for Jorge Farah.

not just about Pearl Jam though

Very true.

[Heathen]

'Yellow Man?'

there's your political song right here, take that China

[Lounge Lizard]

she comes on like a stone
but i'd rather beeeeeee
i'd rather beeee with...

[BootsToAsses]

I took that review's comments about Animal/Lightning Bolt to mean he was saying the way he sings the word "Animal" sounds just like how he sings the phrase, "Lightning Bolt".

Maybe I'm going crazy but I think they sound VERY similar.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

'Yellow Man?'

What's a good review if it doesn't have incorrect song titles

[harmless]

'Yellow Man?'

there's your political song right here, take that China

[Lounge Lizard]

I took that review's comments about Animal/Lightning Bolt to mean he was saying the way he sings the word "Animal" sounds just like how he sings the phrase, "Lightning Bolt".

Maybe I'm going crazy but I think they sound VERY similar.

'Light-nIng bOOOwlt!..'
'A-nI-mOOOwl!..'

Ah, OK, I get it

[HardTI]

'Yellow Man?'

there's your political song right here, take that China

oh god this one is killing me.

[IlluminEddie]

Backspacer had some political songs ...they were less obvious than Bushleaguer...But even a song like, lets say, Glorified G or WMA is political.

Mind your manners is political too...and seems a lot of what he is writing is hinted that way....

Can you point me to the political songs on Backspacer?

I said about 2 or 3 on most albums are political. I don't see it on Backspacer at all, which to me, may be one reason why I like Backspacer.

well, The fixer was released around the time Obama got into office...a lot of people thought it was about him too. It isnt and eddie himself told a different story, but i can see it as a political song too, like mind your manners is a political song.
My point is: Ed writes from a socio-political point of view most of the times. Even if he is clearly making a point ( wws/bushleaguer) or if the whole point is more subtext oriented.
He was more direct with his lyrics during the bush administration, perhaps because he felt it was worse than this one or the previous Clinton one...or because he felt he needed to be as direct as he could to get the message out there.

Nah, I don't see The Fixer as a political song. I know that Ed writes from a socio-political POV. That's kinda my point.

Also, I don't see a need for everyone to constantly harp on Bushleaguer as their political song. Look at Evenflow or Glorified G for other examples.

What the actual fuck? You mean to say that Evenflow is political but Mind Your Manners isn't?

Yes, Mind Your Manners is about religion, not a political issue - like homelessness and how to deal with that. If Mind Your Manners was a political issue, there would be a policy-related to it. Welfare is the policy related to evenflow IMO.

Religion isn't a political issue. Right. Have a nice day, I'm not doing this anymore.

There's no policy-related intent behind the message IMO.

Edit - Other than to avoid talking about Obama.

But he may not be avoiding it...he may be a obama supporter. That´s what i was telling you before...he may believe in him as a president...

or you need Ed to write ObamaLeaguer to know what he thinks about him?

Nope, I think there are realms of issues to get upset about that don't involve calling anyone out by name. Yet, I'd prefer he avoids politics altogether. My bet - if an R comes in in 2016 and wins, we'll hear more political stuff. I can't wait for more of Ed's views on geo-politics... that's for sure.

What I don't understand is the fanboi-type defense of this stuff. There's no need. You can be pro-Obama, you can be pro-PJ, you can be pro-Ed AND you can say - "yeh, he's probably just avoiding talking politics because he's an Obama cheerleader." Nothing is lost in saying all of the above.

but i said that...in the same post.

LOOK:

But he may not be avoiding it...he may be a obama supporter. That´s what i was telling you before...he may believe in him as a president...

True.

[Lounge Lizard]

True.

You quoted all those posts taking up 80% of this page's real estate to say THIS?

[IlluminEddie]

True.

You quoted all those posts taking up 80% of this page's real estate to say THIS?

As did the guy I quoted. Next time, we'll ask you to do the editing before we hit submit.

[Lounge Lizard]

True.

You quoted all those posts taking up 80% of this page's real estate to say THIS?

As did the guy I quoted. Next time, we'll ask you to do the editing before we hit submit.

ah, tough guy, I see.

Addressing everyone with a brain -- mind the overquoting, will ya?

[gardenparty]

kind of a garbage review yet he makes me even more excited to hear Pendulum.

[VinylGuy]

I dont mind long quotes.

[harmless]

I'm just a tiny bit depressed that 'Sirens' will never be as good as Kings of Leon's 'Comeback Story'. I'm not sure anything will be now.

[Lounge Lizard]

I'm just a tiny bit depressed that 'Sirens' will never be as good as Kings of Leon's 'Comeback Story'. I'm not sure anything will be now.

Don't be silly