Potentially, they could floating rumors out like that so they can trade down.Bammer wrote:Is this a smokescreen?Monkey_Driven wrote:I certainly don't want a perimeter player who can't shoot or play defense like Edwards or Ball.Bammer wrote:Gotta be Wiseman, right?Monkey_Driven wrote:Bold prediction: Warriors keep their pick because they don't like any of the trade offers. They do use their trade exception from the Iggy trade to pick up a role player or two.
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If I'm in their shoes, my main goal is getting the owners to drive something. They're in positions of far greater power and influence in the areas where systemic changes actually need to happen (i.e. government / politics). Striking seems like a great start toward getting the owners to initiate something.Mickey wrote:Sure about this?Monkey_Driven wrote:I think athletes may overestimate their influence over national events with refusing to play in protest.
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Agreed. One of the things I definitely missed in my knee jerk reaction to the Bucks news yesterday was the level of power the players, and top stars especially, have at this particular moment. They can end the season literally by just walking off the campus. LeBron, Kawhi, Giannis walk out of the "bubble" and it's a wrap, season over. There's such a level of urgency and that gives them tremendously more leverage than players typically have. Add to it everything else including the financial repercussions and the fact that sports media has done a 180 in the last decade and is now overwhelmingly on the player's side, the PR nightmare, maybe even a desire among some owners to actually do something (?) etc., and the players really might have the owners over a barrel for once.Ensign9 wrote: If I'm in their shoes, my main goal is getting the owners to drive something. They're in positions of far greater power and influence in the areas where systemic changes actually need to happen (i.e. government / politics). Striking seems like a great start toward getting the owners to initiate something.
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Welp, guess the strike is off. I'm a little surprised they made the decision this soon unless they got something concrete from the owners.
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Really the thing to do was continue the strike indefinitely which would put max pressure on the NFL players to strike as well. They tell Bob Kraft and Jerry Jones no football until they and all their buddies put all their power in to legislative action. No more payoffs to pet charities but legislative reform. I get why the NBA guys didn't go that way it's a lot of lost revenue with no guarantees it would work so I don't blame them for not going down that path.
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This isn't in regards to the players boycotting, but the reports that a lot of players were getting sick of being in the bubble:
Complaining about a bubble sounds pretty weak to me. If you can't handle a few months locked down with a ton of amenities I don't know how'd you handle anything deemed "difficult"
Complaining about a bubble sounds pretty weak to me. If you can't handle a few months locked down with a ton of amenities I don't know how'd you handle anything deemed "difficult"
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I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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I'm not saying they have the right to complain, more than it would mess with your mind.Mickey wrote:I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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Probably where the whole introvert/extrovert mentality comes in. To me (as an introvert) that bubble sounds great. A lot of NBA players could be extroverts and it drives them nuts.Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm not saying they have the right to complain, more than it would mess with your mind.Mickey wrote:I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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Okay but if they're extroverts are they not with their teammates every single day?blueviper wrote:Probably where the whole introvert/extrovert mentality comes in. To me (as an introvert) that bubble sounds great. A lot of NBA players could be extroverts and it drives them nuts.Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm not saying they have the right to complain, more than it would mess with your mind.Mickey wrote:I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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After spending 24/7 with my kids for 6 months sign me up yesterday for the bubble. It sounds fun as hell.
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It’s code for no strip clubs.Mickey wrote:Okay but if they're extroverts are they not with their teammates every single day?blueviper wrote:Probably where the whole introvert/extrovert mentality comes in. To me (as an introvert) that bubble sounds great. A lot of NBA players could be extroverts and it drives them nuts.Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm not saying they have the right to complain, more than it would mess with your mind.Mickey wrote:I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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Sorry the famous athletes have to jack off like the rest of us.spike wrote:It’s code for no strip clubs.Mickey wrote:Okay but if they're extroverts are they not with their teammates every single day?blueviper wrote:Probably where the whole introvert/extrovert mentality comes in. To me (as an introvert) that bubble sounds great. A lot of NBA players could be extroverts and it drives them nuts.Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm not saying they have the right to complain, more than it would mess with your mind.Mickey wrote:I dunno, I've been quarantining in a 750 sq ft apartment with my wife and two dogs since March, both of us working from home, and while I'd miss my wife, staying in an elaborate hotel surrounded by staff and trainers while making hundreds of thousands of dollars would be a significant improvement in my living situation. I feel bad for the trainers and attendants. The players, nah.Monkey_Driven wrote:I don't know. It would be pretty jarring to go from being in lockdown with your family every day to no contact whatsoever for two months.
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I've got to say, the Bucks getting the Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General on the line in the locker room is a baller move.
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NBPA Executive Director Michele Roberts and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver released the following joint statement today:
“We had a candid, impassioned and productive conversation yesterday between NBA players, coaches and team governors regarding next steps to further our collective efforts and actions in support of social justice and racial equality. Among others, the attendees included player and team representatives of all 13 teams in Orlando. All parties agreed to resume NBA playoff games on Saturday, Aug. 29 with the understanding that the league together with the players will work to enact the following commitments:
1. The NBA and its players have agreed to immediately establish a social justice coalition, with representatives from players, coaches and governors, that will be focused on a broad range of issues, including increasing access to voting, promoting civic engagement, and advocating for meaningful police and criminal justice reform.
2. In every city where the league franchise owns and controls the arena property, team governors will continue to work with local elections officials to convert the facility into a voting location for the 2020 general election to allow for a safe in-person voting option for communities vulnerable to COVID. If a deadline has passed, team governors will work with local elections officials to find another election-related use for the facility, including but not limited to voter registration and ballot receiving boards.
3. The league will work with the players and our network partners to create and include advertising spots in each NBA playoff game dedicated to promoting greater civic engagement in national and local elections and raising awareness around voter access and opportunity.
“These commitments follow months of close collaboration around designing a safe and healthy environment to restart the NBA season, providing a platform to promote social justice, as well as creating an NBA Foundation focused on economic empowerment in the Black community.
“We look forward to the resumption of the playoffs and continuing to work together – in Orlando and in all NBA team markets – to push for meaningful and sustainable change.”
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4/5 wrote:NBPA Executive Director Michele Roberts and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver released the following joint statement today:
“We had a candid, impassioned and productive conversation yesterday between NBA players, coaches and team governors regarding next steps to further our collective efforts and actions in support of social justice and racial equality. Among others, the attendees included player and team representatives of all 13 teams in Orlando. All parties agreed to resume NBA playoff games on Saturday, Aug. 29 with the understanding that the league together with the players will work to enact the following commitments:
1. The NBA and its players have agreed to immediately establish a social justice coalition, with representatives from players, coaches and governors, that will be focused on a broad range of issues, including increasing access to voting, promoting civic engagement, and advocating for meaningful police and criminal justice reform.
2. In every city where the league franchise owns and controls the arena property, team governors will continue to work with local elections officials to convert the facility into a voting location for the 2020 general election to allow for a safe in-person voting option for communities vulnerable to COVID. If a deadline has passed, team governors will work with local elections officials to find another election-related use for the facility, including but not limited to voter registration and ballot receiving boards.
3. The league will work with the players and our network partners to create and include advertising spots in each NBA playoff game dedicated to promoting greater civic engagement in national and local elections and raising awareness around voter access and opportunity.
“These commitments follow months of close collaboration around designing a safe and healthy environment to restart the NBA season, providing a platform to promote social justice, as well as creating an NBA Foundation focused on economic empowerment in the Black community.
“We look forward to the resumption of the playoffs and continuing to work together – in Orlando and in all NBA team markets – to push for meaningful and sustainable change.”
That's pretty good.
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It is good but would have been better if it was planned prior to the walkout and coordinated with the other leagues.blueviper wrote:4/5 wrote:NBPA Executive Director Michele Roberts and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver released the following joint statement today:
“We had a candid, impassioned and productive conversation yesterday between NBA players, coaches and team governors regarding next steps to further our collective efforts and actions in support of social justice and racial equality. Among others, the attendees included player and team representatives of all 13 teams in Orlando. All parties agreed to resume NBA playoff games on Saturday, Aug. 29 with the understanding that the league together with the players will work to enact the following commitments:
1. The NBA and its players have agreed to immediately establish a social justice coalition, with representatives from players, coaches and governors, that will be focused on a broad range of issues, including increasing access to voting, promoting civic engagement, and advocating for meaningful police and criminal justice reform.
2. In every city where the league franchise owns and controls the arena property, team governors will continue to work with local elections officials to convert the facility into a voting location for the 2020 general election to allow for a safe in-person voting option for communities vulnerable to COVID. If a deadline has passed, team governors will work with local elections officials to find another election-related use for the facility, including but not limited to voter registration and ballot receiving boards.
3. The league will work with the players and our network partners to create and include advertising spots in each NBA playoff game dedicated to promoting greater civic engagement in national and local elections and raising awareness around voter access and opportunity.
“These commitments follow months of close collaboration around designing a safe and healthy environment to restart the NBA season, providing a platform to promote social justice, as well as creating an NBA Foundation focused on economic empowerment in the Black community.
“We look forward to the resumption of the playoffs and continuing to work together – in Orlando and in all NBA team markets – to push for meaningful and sustainable change.”
That's pretty good.
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I don't disagree but don't let perfection stand in the way of progress.surfndestroy wrote:It is good but would have been better if it was planned prior to the walkout and coordinated with the other leagues.
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Raptors shot so poorly it's hard to take anything away from Game 1.