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BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
3 out of 3 does lend credence to the idea that it's reasonable to assume that a lot of people there are not protesters, but thugs looking to hurt people and loot/burn shit (though one was definitely a hardcore leftist as far as I'm aware).
If we're only talking about these shootings, then it's 4 out of 4 involved. And thank you for admitting that this kid was a thug looking to hurt people.
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elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
3 out of 3 does lend credence to the idea that it's reasonable to assume that a lot of people there are not protesters, but thugs looking to hurt people and loot/burn shit (though one was definitely a hardcore leftist as far as I'm aware).
If we're only talking about these shootings, then it's 4 out of 4 involved. And thank you for admitting that this kid was a thug looking to hurt people.
What? What criminal record did the kid have?
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simple schoolboy wrote:
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Ellis beat you last page. You gotta step up your game.
i'll gladly pass the torch, i'm getting tired.....
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
Its not all clear he was carrying illegally. As a minor he can't carry dangerous weapons such as ninja stars, but if I understand it 16 year olds can open carry rifles in Wisconsin.

I believe only 1 other individual made contact with him, and I'm unsure if they have been identified.
"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis confirmed to reporters Wednesday that you have to be 18 to open carry in the state of Wisconsin."
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doug rr wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
doug rr wrote:Image
Ellis beat you last page. You gotta step up your game.
i'll gladly pass the torch, i'm getting tired.....
I'm pretty amazed that you've kept it going this long.
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elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
Its not all clear he was carrying illegally. As a minor he can't carry dangerous weapons such as ninja stars, but if I understand it 16 year olds can open carry rifles in Wisconsin.

I believe only 1 other individual made contact with him, and I'm unsure if they have been identified.
"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis confirmed to reporters Wednesday that you have to be 18 to open carry in the state of Wisconsin."
There's an exemption for 16-18 year olds for long guns only, apparently intended for hunting purposes but its not clear that its limited to those activities.


EDIT:
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... tes/948/60

948.60 (3) c
This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28.
29.593 is Requirement for certificate of accomplishment to obtain hunting approval

It does not explicitly say that a minor needs a hunting certificate to carry, so either a 16-18 engaged in hunting without a certificate is illegally carrying, or this is poorly drafted.

Perhaps young Kyle will need to make new case law to get clear, but it seems kosher to me. IANAL
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Wasn't he carrying an AR-15? Or am I wrong? Sorry, but that's not a hunting rifle.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
Its not all clear he was carrying illegally. As a minor he can't carry dangerous weapons such as ninja stars, but if I understand it 16 year olds can open carry rifles in Wisconsin.

I believe only 1 other individual made contact with him, and I'm unsure if they have been identified.
"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis confirmed to reporters Wednesday that you have to be 18 to open carry in the state of Wisconsin."
There's an exemption for 16-18 year olds for long guns only, apparently intended for hunting purposes but its not clear that its limited to those activities. I'll edit this post to add the relevant portion of Wisconsin statutes when I find it again.

Yea im sure he was driven to kenosha by his mother to go deer hunting in August and he accidentally stumbled across the riots and was attacked by an unruly mob and had to self defend.
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Strat wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
Its not all clear he was carrying illegally. As a minor he can't carry dangerous weapons such as ninja stars, but if I understand it 16 year olds can open carry rifles in Wisconsin.

I believe only 1 other individual made contact with him, and I'm unsure if they have been identified.
"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis confirmed to reporters Wednesday that you have to be 18 to open carry in the state of Wisconsin."
There's an exemption for 16-18 year olds for long guns only, apparently intended for hunting purposes but its not clear that its limited to those activities. I'll edit this post to add the relevant portion of Wisconsin statutes when I find it again.

Yea im sure he was driven to kenosha by his mother to go deer hunting in August and he accidentally stumbled across the riots and was attacked by an unruly mob and had to self defend.
Yea, i know that isn't what you were exactly arguing but the what abouts and circling and pretzel twisting is getting out of control.
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ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
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BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
In a weird way you just agreed with my sentiment and im glad you aren't the psycho you are portraying yourself as
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BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
I mean, you actually never have to correct anything, Burt. It's a choice.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:Weird that no one with a clean record felt the need to jump him.
we know of the 3 that got shot. Was that everyone chasing after him? Looked like more than 3 to me, but I feel it better to ignore this strawman.
simple schoolboy wrote:Are these protests disproportionately populated by justice-involved individuals?
again, 3 people, and the kid who shot them was illegally carrying that rifle at the time. This is a strawman and should be dropped now.

It would also be nice if sheriffs took the same approach to protesters and property as they did bison:

"A herd of bison broke down the gate at a feedlot in Nebraska and have been running wild ever since. Five of the 125 animals have already been hit and killed by vehicles and a sixth was shot, the Omaha World-Herald reported. The owner has been scrambling to corral the animals and has hired a Kansas company to come in and wrangle them. Phelps County Sheriff Gene Samuelson is urging residents and farm owners to leave the bison alone. “Let this company do what they were hired to do. They will not need any assistance, so please refrain from forming search parties and taking any action,” he said."
Its not all clear he was carrying illegally. As a minor he can't carry dangerous weapons such as ninja stars, but if I understand it 16 year olds can open carry rifles in Wisconsin.

I believe only 1 other individual made contact with him, and I'm unsure if they have been identified.
"Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis confirmed to reporters Wednesday that you have to be 18 to open carry in the state of Wisconsin."
There's an exemption for 16-18 year olds for long guns only, apparently intended for hunting purposes but its not clear that its limited to those activities. I'll edit this post to add the relevant portion of Wisconsin statutes when I find it again.
don't bother.
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elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
I mean, you actually never have to correct anything, Burt. It's a choice.
God I wish that were true.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
I mean, you actually never have to correct anything, Burt. It's a choice.
God I wish that were true.
Your ego is a little unhealthy, burt.
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elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
I mean, you actually never have to correct anything, Burt.
Especially if these past few pages are how we're defining "correcting."
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Strat wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:ok good. you realized it. I dont have to correct you again. good.
I mean, you actually never have to correct anything, Burt. It's a choice.
God I wish that were true.
Your ego is a little unhealthy, burt.
Ego is what it's all about, my boy.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Wasn't he carrying an AR-15? Or am I wrong? Sorry, but that's not a hunting rifle.
It is in some states. Others restrict you from taking game with a caliber of less than 6mm or something. It is most definitely a varmit rifle.
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