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cutuphalfdead wrote:How about this, I'll gladly do a HD&P for the dot net. Send me an external drive and I'll copy my collection to it and mail it back to you. Make sure it's at least a terabyte. Then you'll have everything in lossless, with all the proper source information, and you can stop hosting very poor bitrate versions of audience recordings with no credit to the taper.
woah. can i do that for just me?
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bodysnatcher wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:How about this, I'll gladly do a HD&P for the dot net. Send me an external drive and I'll copy my collection to it and mail it back to you. Make sure it's at least a terabyte. Then you'll have everything in lossless, with all the proper source information, and you can stop hosting very poor bitrate versions of audience recordings with no credit to the taper.
woah. can i do that for just me?
Absolutely. I can't do these for everyone at once because they take time to transfer, but the only reason I have my collection is because someone did it for me, and I'm more than happy to pay it forward. PM me for details.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:How about this, I'll gladly do a HD&P for the dot net. Send me an external drive and I'll copy my collection to it and mail it back to you. Make sure it's at least a terabyte. Then you'll have everything in lossless, with all the proper source information, and you can stop hosting very poor bitrate versions of audience recordings with no credit to the taper.
woah. can i do that for just me?
Absolutely. I can't do these for everyone at once because they take time to transfer, but the only reason I have my collection is because someone did it for me, and I'm more than happy to pay it forward. PM me for details.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
harmless wrote:Can someone PM me the gmail account details?
login: lecherouslittlestump
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sweet, thanks, i was kind of afraid to ask for this
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Here's the source info I have for 9/11/98

Notice the amount of work that went into this. Also notice how many times they say DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3. You're shitting on people's hard work when you circulate them in qualities that don't meet their standards. It's even worse when you disregard it anyway and choose a really poor bitrate.
Pearl Jam
SV011 - "THREE YEARS IN NEW YORK CITY"
September 11, 1998
Madison Square Garden: New York, NY

**SECOND REMASTER**

Source: 2-source mix: [Schoeps MK5 (cardioid) > R-Mod > Sony SBM-1 > Sony PCM-M1 (right risers) > dat] +
[Core Sound Cardioid > Sony TCD-D7 > dat] > cdr > dEdit > dEQ > flac

Digital Matrix Mix: "Sneaky Bastard" (mixed with Pro Tools)
Digital Editing and Remastering: Allen Robertson
Artwork: Allen Robertson

---------------------------
***DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3***
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DISC ONE
01 Release
02 Hail Hail
03 Animal
04 Even Flow
05 Given to Fly
06 Corduroy
07 MFC
08 Habit
09 Faithfull
10 Daughter/(Beginning to See the Light)/(W.M.A.)
11 Wishlist
12 Nothingman
13 Immortality
14 Rearviewmirror

DISC TWO
01 Brain of J
02 Black
03 Do the Evolution
encore 1:
04 Breath (#)
05 State of Love and Trust
06 Off He Goes
07 Leatherman
08 Better Man/(Save it for Later)
09 Mankind
10 Baba O'Riley
encore 2:
11 Indifference (^)
12 Alive

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***DO NOT CONVERT TO MP3***
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(#) = first time played since Boston 4/11/94
(^) = performed with Ben Harper

Recording Notes:
The editing performed was to minimize the spots of static, clicks/pops, and handclaps. Many of these were
during the first thirty seconds or so of "Animal" and during the first minute of "Immortality", but there
were many others here and there throughout the entire show (which supposedly happened during the mixing, or
were present on one of the sources prior to mixing). There is also a mild glitch @ 4:13 of "Release" which
was improved a little, but could not be fixed completely, and there is something unidentifiable @ 0:20 on
"Black" which was could not be completely corrected. Approximately 100-150 pops have been manually removed.
The end result is absolutely by no means perfect; there is an annoying whistler, the audience noise gets a little
overbearing sometimes, and there are still some occasional pops. It is possible that this show could be
made better in the future by doing a new mix of the two sources and isolating the pops beforehand (instead of
after mixing), but this source is probably the best until then, if that ever happens.

Special Note:
This is the second of two remastered versions that were done for this show. The sound on the first one was
accidentally made too tinny, so this new one has more bass brought back. Also even more pops were edited
(primarily on the second disc). The beginning of "Alive" sounds a little strange through headphones due to a
filter that was added there on the left channel to filter out a high-pitched feedback problem that was present
for most of the song (thanks to roberob23 for identifying that). Also, you may want to pay close attention to the
flac fingerprints to make sure that you have the correct better version.

Artwork Notes (spacedvest):
The artwork is a 9/11 tribute, using the coincidence of the date and the band playing in New York. The only thing
that has been modifed from before for this "rerelease" is a modified tray file (some of the times on the second
disc where slightly changed from before).

Show Notes (thanks to Five Horizons):
Returning for the encore and yet another sea of "Breath" signs on ever single level of the Garden, Ed tells
the crowd they are never satisfied:

"You fucking cocksuckers. [shakes head] You fucking bitch! You know, we come up here as a
collective band and we give and we give and you just fucking want more ... and you know
what? You deserve it. This is like some kind of organized religion here; I've never seen
anything like it. Do you see what's happening? ... the third night in a row, right?
[applause] Well, fuck you. We're gonna play it!"

leading to the first playing of 'Breath' since 1994!!! woo hoo!!! With a brief announcement ("same record,
different track"), they follow with 'SoL&T.' 'Mankind' is introduced by Stone saying, "Well, since we're playing
every song in the catalog..." 'Baba' is intro'd as being a response to "corporate rock bands who make the mistake
of trying to cover a real rock song." 'Indifference' is played with an ecstatic Ben Harper (who has been including
'Indifference' at some of his shows). During 'Alive,' Ed makes four attempts to toss his microphone over the vocal
monitor rig above his head, and finally gets it over, but instead of just standing there, he proceeds to CLIMB UP
THE MIC CORD and hang there for the rest of the song. Possibly the best show the band has ever played in their life.
Period. (And they knew it, too.)

This is being distributed by blackredyellow.com in tandem with pj.sidewalkcrusaders.com, and is part of a series
of the best Pearl Jam shows in existence (BTW, the spell checker is now on). If the artwork is not included, you
can find it at blackredyellow.com.

Compiled by spacedvest on 5/16/04, more notes by spacedvest on 7/13/04.
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Actually my Pearl Jam HD has 1.37TB of data on it so you'd need at least 1.5. I like the idea of going for 2 so there's room for expansion.
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hey i know allen
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cutuphalfdead wrote:How about this, I'll gladly do a HD&P for the dot net. Send me an external drive and I'll copy my collection to it and mail it back to you. Make sure it's at least a terabyte. Then you'll have everything in lossless, with all the proper source information, and you can stop hosting very poor bitrate versions of audience recordings with no credit to the taper.
Well played sir.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
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Coach wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
Because Ten Club really knows the best way to interact with their customers.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:How about this, I'll gladly do a HD&P for the dot net. Send me an external drive and I'll copy my collection to it and mail it back to you. Make sure it's at least a terabyte. Then you'll have everything in lossless, with all the proper source information, and you can stop hosting very poor bitrate versions of audience recordings with no credit to the taper.
That's awesome!
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Coach wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
Because Ten Club really knows the best way to interact with their customers.
They must have gotten the phone numbers because when you post to the official board they know who you are...is that correct?

If they reached out to RMers...how could they do that?

And what the fuck were the posters talking about that got them so upset? Sorry, I am intrigued.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Coach wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
Because Ten Club really knows the best way to interact with their customers.
http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/2009/06/ ... re-to-win/
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nomorecrackpipes wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Coach wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
Because Ten Club really knows the best way to interact with their customers.
http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/2009/06/ ... re-to-win/
Thanks...interesting. If it wasn't for all of the fan sites, 10C wouldn't have the proper info for its archiving on the "proper" site.
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Coach wrote:
nomorecrackpipes wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Coach wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Mine wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Do you guys honestly think even the 10 Club would be so blatantly inept at PR that they'd openly state "only bad fans would want to take food from the mouths of their children"?
You mean, the same organization that reportedly called people at home to discuss things they wrote on a message board? Yes, I absolutely think they would be that blatantly inept at PR.
that actually happened? What was it about?
This sounds so bizarre, that it may have been true.
It happened.
What the fuck? Really? How?
Because Ten Club really knows the best way to interact with their customers.
http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/2009/06/ ... re-to-win/
Thanks...interesting. If it wasn't for all of the fan sites, 10C wouldn't have the proper info for its archiving on the "proper" site.
I'm so old, I remember when PJ was light years ahead of everyone else playing this internet game ... that was before November 1997.
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Coach wrote:Thanks...interesting. If it wasn't for all of the fan sites, 10C wouldn't have the proper info for its archiving on the "proper" site.
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i think number 3 was written with CHUD in mind :lol:

http://www.gremmie.net/humor/the-high-5 ... s-you-know
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Tass Man wrote:i think number 3 was written with CHUD in mind :lol:

http://www.gremmie.net/humor/the-high-5 ... s-you-know
Seriously, fuck him. I may take things too far, but if you think 128kb/s mp3s are just fine then don't bother replacing the Lightning Bolt leaks with better mp3s for your ipod when the album comes out.
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Also, those "don't convert my tapes to mp3" rules only apply to distribution. No one cares how YOU eat YOUR bread, but if you smear shit on it don't give it to other people afterwards.
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Tass Man wrote:i think number 3 was written with CHUD in mind :lol:

http://www.gremmie.net/humor/the-high-5 ... s-you-know
Jesus, what a moron.
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