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surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
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B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
What if the officer has to take a dump?
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B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
:thumbsup:

Those are pretty good.
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macphisto wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
What if the officer has to take a dump?
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macphisto wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
What if the officer has to take a dump?
Surely no one can solve that. I give up. Murder away.
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Rob wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.

Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
:thumbsup:

Those are pretty good.
3 and 4 are good ideas
1, 2, and 5 are bad ideas
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Bi_3 wrote:
Rob wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.

Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
:thumbsup:

Those are pretty good.
3 and 4 are good ideas
1, 2, and 5 are bad ideas
I’d be okay with citizens having a voice on the Review Board but not the voice.
Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
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B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
1,2, and 5 would need the acquiesence of the police union. How do we get these things into union contracts in the face of intransigent unions?
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Citizen board would just end up with a bunch of psychos who want revenge instead of justice when stuff goes wrong
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verb_to_trust wrote:Citizen board would just end up with a bunch of psychos who want revenge instead of justice when stuff goes wrong
And more likely, no actual authority to fire anyone. They seem mostly to exist so local politicians can point to doing something about police brutality.
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verb_to_trust wrote:Citizen board would just end up with a bunch of psychos who want revenge instead of justice when stuff goes wrong
So like the police force then.
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i wonder if corporations will just start stepping in and funding private security squads

at this rate there won't be any police left and cities will fall prey to bands of rapists and visiting friends with giant backpacks crashing on your living room floor because your roomate just assumed that would be OK for a week

i don't want to live in a world without rules

and i need my living room floor for walking on
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96583UP wrote:i wonder if corporations will just start stepping in and funding private security squads

at this rate there won't be any police left and cities will fall prey to bands of rapists and visiting friends with giant backpacks crashing on your living room floor because your roomate just assumed that would be OK for a week

i don't want to live in a world without rules

and i need my living room floor for walking on
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B wrote:I know my posts come off as defending violent protesters and looters. That's not my stance. I want them out. I want them arrested quickly and charged, so the protests can continue.
I'm actually not totally against violent protest, as long as its targeted correctly. I more or less think burning down that Minneapolis police precinct was fine. It's when they move on to burning small business, blocking traffic, attacking random people, looting just to get free shit, ACAB bullshit, etc. that I start calling for camps to put them in. And most of the rioting in the pacific northwest has nothing to do with George Floyd and everything to do with ideological brainwashing, so of course I'll say fuck those guys.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
1,2, and 5 would need the acquiesence of the police union. How do we get these things into union contracts in the face of intransigent unions?
Maybe if police departments started getting refunded?
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maybe this is all a moot point because in 10 years human police officers will be replaced by drones
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or maybe less than 10 years

when the progressive left recommends them as a replacement

the drones will be programmed by a panel of the most liberal fart-sniffers on the planet

poets and environmentalists and persons whose gender is so fluid they are offended by the use of any letter combination in the alphabet attempting to refer to them as a pronoun and instead insist on being referred to using a special whistle hand carved from a sustainably-farmed ram's horn

they will usher in a new era of peace by purging enforcement of the flaws of primitive human responses

and begin the judgement day sequence
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Lol
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B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
B wrote:There aren't good cops and bad cops. There are cops whose disciplinary records are shielded from public scrutiny and people who aren't cops.
What are your top five police policy and policing standard changes would like to see?
Disciplinary Records available via FOIA.
Body cams not controlled by the officer and available via FOIA.
Elimination of qualified immunity.
Elimination of civil forfeiture.
Citizen board with authority to discipline, suspend, and fire that reviews complaints of excessive force.
1,2, and 5 would need the acquiesence of the police union. How do we get these things into union contracts in the face of intransigent unions?
Maybe if police departments started getting refunded?
Rule changes under threat of mass layoffs sounds like something that might garner sympathy from other public sector unions.
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