Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[Mike]

I knew it wasn't just cello; one of them was too high. Is a viola just one step deeper than a violin?

"Since the 18th century it has been the middle voice of the violin family, between the violin (which is tuned a perfect fifth above it) and the cello (which is tuned an octave below it).[2]"

[igotworms]

Yeah it's somewhere between a cello and violin. Must be viola then, not cello. My bad.

[Mike]

Yeah it's somewhere between a cello and violin. Must be viola then, not cello. My bad.

It's probably both!

[Jorge]

I knew it wasn't just cello; one of them was too high. Is a viola just one step deeper than a violin?

Violas are tuned a fifth below the violin and an octave higher than the cello.

[sward]

Aerosmith and Bon Jovi wear the cheese label well. I even enjoy 'some' of their cheese. It just not a suit I see Pearl Jam wearing with any ease at all. Sappy? Sure. I think Just Breathe might be labeled that and I guess I never thought they'd go there either and I liked that song just fine, but man...I'm scared of the cheese label.

Anyway, neither here nor there...will hear it for ourselves in two days and be able to dismiss or not then. I'm more disappointed that i might be ...disappointed. As the bands excitement for the song had me (or Mike and BOB anyway)..had me anticipating it.

[Heathen]

those first two songs are horrible. I like eternal flame.

If someone doesn't like it they'll call it a bon jovi song or dad rock because it is the most effective way to dismiss it and those who like it

it could be just another way to attack others, or it could be just that sonically it reminds you of something you don't like so you're going to call it that because you think it's a fitting description

[harmless]

I knew it wasn't just cello; one of them was too high. Is a viola just one step deeper than a violin?

"Since the 18th century it has been the middle voice of the violin family, between the violin (which is tuned a perfect fifth above it) and the cello (which is tuned an octave below it).[2]"

[stip]

nice edit to your post, stupidmop

Yeah i screwed the puchline, welp.

it'll be there for anyone just reading this thread for the first time. Despair not!

[unLEASHed]

do you think that glen hansard song, falling slowly falls into cheese category?? if sirens falls into this type of cheese I'm all in!!!

[Mike]

I expect Sirens to sound like an acoustic song from Led Zeppelin mixed with the cheese of Just Breathe. And I'd be okay with it.

[stip]

since someone asked early, I think, this was drowned in sound's backspacer review. Not sure it was the same author though. Probably not, given some comments in the review

If they've never exactly been fashionable, Pearl Jam have always been on better terms with the UK than received wisdom would have it. Though Ten’s naffer excesses were oft used as a stick with which to beat the band – generally to the flattery of Nirvana or the Britpop acts – the fact that exactly the same ‘throwback bores’ argument was trotted out in the face of the savage Vs and unhinged Vitalogy probably indicates that there was no real dislike for those records, more the actual idea of Pearl Jam.

Once Britpop had finally sloped off (though not before taking the almighty shit in the bathroom that was the Stereophonics) we were all good to go: 2000’s Binaural was accompanied by glowing reviews, the band’s first full UK arena tour, and such articles as this excellent, thoughtful interview with NME’s John Mulvey.

Okay, it didn't really last, for which the agonised Riot Act and the distraction of the (ahem) New Rock Revolution can most likely be blamed. But the fact is that general critical acceptance of the band has been on the cards for an age. Sniffing the upbeat press and general goodwill around Backspacer and it would appear it's finally happening for real.

Which is fine and all, but um, yeah... shame it’s not one of their best records. Out goes the seething emotion and hard-fought musical builds of yore. In comes the first set of straight down the line pop songs Eddie Vedder and co have ever written. Fortunately, they're not the shabby kind.

Backspacer commences with ‘Gonna See My Friend’s twangy rollick’n’roll, easily the giddiest opening track on any Pearl Jam record. While Vedder’s lyrics would seem to be a fairly gloomy channelling of a junkie’s lusts – “I'm gonna see my friend for what I require ... I'm sick of everything, I'm gonna see my friend, make it go away” - his borderline ecstatic delivery is such that one can’t help but interpret the actual sentiment as “yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaw!” It's good, and the next three songs are frickin’ sublime. ‘Got Some’ cruises in on an ultra-tight new wave guitar figure, Vedder flipping his softened, almost adolescent voice through the catchiest vocal hook of his career – “every NIGHT with the light ON where you GONE? WHAT’s wrong?” The lyric would appear to be the flipside to ‘See My Friend’ – Vedder is the one dispensing the relief – but again, it doesn’t feel like there’s any darkness here, just a glorious burst of pop-rock, delightfully in love with its own momentum. ‘The Fixer’ offers a third track on the same theme; once more, the name suggests something untoward or seedy, but the music's life-crackling surge and lines as blessedly optimistic as “If there's no love, I wanna try to love again” says otherwise. ‘Johnny Guitar’ offers more deliriously flip rock pop, almost to the point of pastiche, Vedder casting himself as a lovelorn horndog who finds himself thwarted in his love of “the girl in red so innocent” by the eponymous lothario.

Indeed, stylistically and lyrically Backspacer would seem to consist of the songs Vedder might have written as a teenager had he been less monumentally fucked up at the time, with the band drawing heavily on the pop of both their youths and their parents’ before them – certainly ‘Last Kiss’ now seems way less anomalous.

You may miss the full-force guitars and the molten eruption of Vedder’s wounded soul, but we’ve had plenty of that before, and a lot of Backspacer is a lot of fun. A shame, then, that they’ve kind of messed up the quieter songs, which dominate the record's second half.

Pearl Jam’s gravitas – musically and lyrically – has enabled them to write some of the more affecting ballads and lullabies of recent times: ‘I Am Mine’, ‘Wishlist’, Nothingman’, ‘Better Man’, ‘Daughter’. Though Backspacer's only actively excruciating note is the beardy folk ramble of ‘Just Breathe’, the likes of ‘Unknown Thought’ and ‘Speed Of Sound’ feel sapped by the record's lightness; it's fairly self-evident that these tracks would have sounded better if recorded at literally any other time in Pearl Jam's history. The occasional presence of an orchestra is just bewildering: this is a band that reaches their emotional highs through blood, sweat and tears, not symphonic gimmicks.

Still, if Vedder's once inferno-like angst really has subsided, it's entirely to him and his band's credit that they've diverted their energies elsewhere. Backspacer is defined by its opening salvo of choons, a joyous fusillade that seems likely to finally finally finally put the band's rock dinosaur rep to bed. It’s the long-term implications that are more worrying: there are weak songs here, and they’re weak because they lack qualities Pearl Jam used to possess in rough hewn spades. Still, Backspacer is very much calculated to sound the way it sounds, and suggesting Pearl Jam have lost anything would be premature. Ultimately there’s no point fretting about the future when contemplating a record that’s so very much a celebration of the moment.

[harmless]

Aerosmith and Bon Jovi wear the cheese label well. I even enjoy 'some' of their cheese. It just not a suit I see Pearl Jam wearing with any ease at all. Sappy? Sure. I think Just Breathe might be labeled that and I guess I never thought they'd go there either and I liked that song just fine, but man...I'm scared of the cheese label.

Anyway, neither here nor there...will hear it for ourselves in two days and be able to dismiss or not then. I'm more disappointed that i might be ...disappointed. As the bands excitement for the song had me (or Mike and BOB anyway)..had me anticipating it.

I agree with all this. I'm pretty worried, after liking everything I'm hearing, of suddenly having a spanner thrown in the works. I'm still hoping that its cheesiness is tempered by the tracks around it. That's probably part of the point, actually. Surround it with some rock, some weirdness, and it won't seem as excessive in context. I'm not sure if I want to add it to these tracks we have already, without those darker ones. But I will be; Friday night, we've got a bottle or two of wine in, and we'll be checking out Sirens. *gulp* The fact that Mike is wondering around a railway kind of reminds me of Bon Jovi already.

[Lounge Lizard]

I expect Sirens to sound like an acoustic song from Led Zeppelin mixed with the cheese of Just Breathe. And I'd be okay with it.

it doesn't seem to have the acoustic country style picking by Ed but rather a more conventional acoustic style like we heard on Daughter, and that is a good thing to my mind

[harmless]

I expect Sirens to sound like an acoustic song from Led Zeppelin mixed with the cheese of Just Breathe. And I'd be okay with it.

it doesn't seem to have the acoustic country style picking by Ed but rather a more conventional acoustic style like we heard on Daughter, and that is a good thing to my mind

Definitely. I'm just glad to hear *strumming* on an acoustic guitar on this album. Enough finger-picking, Ed, you're not even very good at it. I want the strumming of Daughter, Elderly Woman, Rise, that kind of thing...

[dimejinky99]

do you think that glen hansard song, falling slowly falls into cheese category?? if sirens falls into this type of cheese I'm all in!!!

Well now it's being played at weddings and stuff so yeah total cheese.
Glen n ed have definitely had an impact on each others songwriting/lyric writing.
I can hear it at least. No bad thing.
Unless you don't like songs about heartbreaks, breakups and general tree hugging.

[sward]

Aerosmith and Bon Jovi wear the cheese label well. I even enjoy 'some' of their cheese. It just not a suit I see Pearl Jam wearing with any ease at all. Sappy? Sure. I think Just Breathe might be labeled that and I guess I never thought they'd go there either and I liked that song just fine, but man...I'm scared of the cheese label.

Anyway, neither here nor there...will hear it for ourselves in two days and be able to dismiss or not then. I'm more disappointed that i might be ...disappointed. As the bands excitement for the song had me (or Mike and BOB anyway)..had me anticipating it.

I agree with all this. I'm pretty worried, after liking everything I'm hearing, of suddenly having a spanner thrown in the works. I'm still hoping that its cheesiness is tempered by the tracks around it. That's probably part of the point, actually. Surround it with some rock, some weirdness, and it won't seem as excessive in context. I'm not sure if I want to add it to these tracks we have already, without those darker ones. But I will be; Friday night, we've got a bottle or two of wine in, and we'll be checking out Sirens. *gulp* The fact that Mike is wondering around a railway kind of reminds me of Bon Jovi already.

If Mike had opened his shirt and stared at the heavens while it rained, I was ready to hop off the PJ train.

[dimejinky99]

Also, that English review gives me hope for the record.
I generally disagree with everything they write about Pj since none of them journalists in the Uk know really anything about Pj outside the big headline moments, Ten, Kurt, Roskilde.
So this album is probably awesome

[harmless]

Aerosmith and Bon Jovi wear the cheese label well. I even enjoy 'some' of their cheese. It just not a suit I see Pearl Jam wearing with any ease at all. Sappy? Sure. I think Just Breathe might be labeled that and I guess I never thought they'd go there either and I liked that song just fine, but man...I'm scared of the cheese label.

Anyway, neither here nor there...will hear it for ourselves in two days and be able to dismiss or not then. I'm more disappointed that i might be ...disappointed. As the bands excitement for the song had me (or Mike and BOB anyway)..had me anticipating it.

I agree with all this. I'm pretty worried, after liking everything I'm hearing, of suddenly having a spanner thrown in the works. I'm still hoping that its cheesiness is tempered by the tracks around it. That's probably part of the point, actually. Surround it with some rock, some weirdness, and it won't seem as excessive in context. I'm not sure if I want to add it to these tracks we have already, without those darker ones. But I will be; Friday night, we've got a bottle or two of wine in, and we'll be checking out Sirens. *gulp* The fact that Mike is wondering around a railway kind of reminds me of Bon Jovi already.

If Mike had opened his shirt and stared at the heavens while it rained, I was ready to hop off the PJ train.

If PJ wanted to rip off classic rock in any way, I'm absolutely positive the British press would've been kinder to it if it had more parody about it. MOAR excess. We like irony, we don't like sincerity, so PJ have always found us difficult to negotiate.

[stupidmop]

See that article was vaguely backhanded.

it's fairly self-evident that these tracks would have sounded better if recorded at literally any other time in Pearl Jam's history. The occasional presence of an orchestra is just bewildering: this is a band that reaches their emotional highs through blood, sweat and tears, not symphonic gimmicks.

I agree with that though.

Sirens will be extra cheesy because we all know its going to come from a place of 100% pure sincerity. Not 'hey we wrote a totally 80s ballad lols' but 'our most beautiful song ever ever'

[dimejinky99]

UK mags are notorious for building bands up as the greatest thing ever, then tearing them down after a year of two. Few notable exceptions bit that's generally the vibe.

Ed picked a fight with NME very early, think it was in Finsbury park(fucking excellent boot)
Can't remember the context by a lot of it could come from that.