Lounge Lizard wrote:If Sirens was such a knockdown, imagine what My Father's Son does to us.
It was the lone song that was consistantly dubbed as 'strange/unusual/weird' in the reviews.
Mirella?
Can you please get us ready for this?!
I am not even ready for that one yet. So I am glad I have you Maybe my significant other can shed some light on this...
IlluminEddie wrote:You'll like this song if you liked Betterman and Wishlist style songs. It's a commercial song that will get recognition. If you don't like that, you'll hate this. It's a pop song. Meaning nothing more than... popular culture will like it.
So, my guess, most here will hate it. #hipsters
those are two of my favorite songs, and on my first two listens I'm not feeling this one.
IlluminEddie wrote:You'll like this song if you liked Betterman and Wishlist style songs. It's a commercial song that will get recognition. If you don't like that, you'll hate this. It's a pop song. Meaning nothing more than... popular culture will like it.
So, my guess, most here will hate it. #hipsters
those are two of my favorite songs, and on my first two listens I'm not feeling this one.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
Strat wrote:Ed sounds absolutely wonderful. Hitting the entire vocal range.
But yea im....kind of....i dont know.
Illumineddie - you are fucking weird. Wishlist and Betterman are great and this is....
This is about something real. And this totally adds to the conceptual feel of the album as a whole.
Wishlist is retarded lyrically. But, for example, my wife loves Wishlist and pretty much just tolerates Pearl Jam. Wishlist was relatively popular. This will be similar to that in some ways. That's my point, nothing more. Also, I think this is a much better song than Wishlist because it is.
P.S. Whoever said this was Pink Floyd'ish is crazy.
wishlist is one of the strongest pieces of writing in the catalog, lyrically.
Strat wrote:Ed sounds absolutely wonderful. Hitting the entire vocal range.
But yea im....kind of....i dont know.
Illumineddie - you are fucking weird. Wishlist and Betterman are great and this is....
This is about something real. And this totally adds to the conceptual feel of the album as a whole.
Wishlist is retarded lyrically. But, for example, my wife loves Wishlist and pretty much just tolerates Pearl Jam. Wishlist was relatively popular. This will be similar to that in some ways. That's my point, nothing more. Also, I think this is a much better song than Wishlist because it is.
P.S. Whoever said this was Pink Floyd'ish is crazy.
wishlist is one of the strongest pieces of writing in the catalog, lyrically.
And live it just is taken to another level.
You have to shave your nipples if you want to be with me.
stip wrote:Cheesiness is increasingly becoming a word I think needs to be defined with examples before being used.
In a broad sense, I think "cheesy" (or "corny," or any of its many synonyms) typically refers to something that feels emotionally phony despite the fact that it is manipulated and manufactured to be just the opposite. Think of those big Nashville ballads sung from the perspective of dads giving their daughters away to be married, or soldiers coming home from the war in pine boxes while the entire town of Pissville, Kentucy stands by saluting, unable to decide if their tears are tears of grief or tears of pure American pride. Really just listen to a pop country station for a half hour and you'll have a pretty good understanding of the term.
To use a more relevant example, I would cite the difference between hearing "Future Days" with all the accompaniment from Wrigley, and hearing the unadorned inner-ear monitor thing that leaked, with just Eddie and the guitar. The latter is a naked and honest sentiment (albeit not a particularly exciting one, and not a particularly great song), but when you bring in the piano, the strings, etc. you get this feeling of someone behind the curtain really trying to sell that emotion, to put it across in a theatrical, unduly dramatic way. That's where the manipulation comes in, and I think where most people get off the wagon.
I'm not sure I agree with this, since it doesn't seem to account for something that is cheesy but still genuinely moving. Maybe what you describe is one end of a cheese continuum.
I think Pearl Jam is one of those bands that you either buy into or not. There's always been a sincere and earnestness that either people have loved or makes some uncomfortable. There's a certain hokiness you buy into, I've felt, since Ten. The Nirvana/Sonic Youth side of the spectrum hated Ten cause they liked the whole "detached cool" thing. That hokiness is something very American, and which resonates in a very middle-American way. It's something that alot of people eat up but doesn't necessarily stand up well to critical review (the kind that happens in journalism and now message boards).
I am always okay with this and don't have the cheese radar others seem to. Eddie sounds very nice, and the song so far is pleasant, but kinda featureless. Best case scenario it becomes hypnotic and sweeps you lazily along with it. But this is a long song to not really have dramatic moments.
These high vocal parts Eddie attempts, specifically in this song at "studied your face..." and the others... does anybody actually find these pleasant to listen to??? Ed is just stretching way too far here, it sounds terrible.
The way he sings "...to send you in the arms of another man" is awesome. But it makes my autotune radar go off.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
LikeLukin wrote:These high vocal parts Eddie attempts, specifically in this song at "studied your face..." and the others... does anybody actually find these pleasant to listen to??? Ed is just stretching way too far here, it sounds terrible.
Could not disagree more. Eddie sounds better than he has in years here (and on the other new tracks).
Jaeti wrote:If you've heard all the LB audio that's available to this point and are optimistic, I think you'll pretty much remain optimistic after hearing this. If you're pessimistic, this isn't going to turn things around.
By the way guys, I think this is the kind of 80s feel that our beloved soundcheck song is going to have, if a bit more driving and heavy. Prepare yourselves.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
Maybe my significant other can shed some light on this...
And live it just is taken to another level.
