Song of the Moment: Sirens

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So...Sirens?

5 stars
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38%
4 stars
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3 stars
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

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Danced in laughter with the ever after.

Yikes.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:You guys remember SHNs? Those sucked.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:WAV is a format that contains raw PCM audio. PCM is the digital standard for expressing audio as a series of 1s and 0s. CDs use another format called Red Book that also contains raw PCM audio. But WAV became the standard for computers way back in the day.

FLAC and Apple Lossless are two competing formats that more efficiently code that audio without discarding any pieces of the audio itself. That's why it's called lossless. It's a form of file compression that doesn't lose any of the actual data. It's just a more efficient way to write it.

MP3 is lossy. It takes away tiny bits of audio data and the playback algorithm guesses what those bits should sound like based on the bits surrounding them. Kind of like removing every 4th frame of a movie and having a computer redraw those frames based on what's seen in frame 3 and 5. They also chop off the frequencies which are above the audible human range. Even though you technially can't hear those frequencies, the result of losing them, along with the missing pieces that are being redrawn, is that flat, 2-dimensional sound of an mp3.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
AllNiteThing wrote:With headphones it's like listening to an album for the first time, even if you've been familiar with it for decades.
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Nothing beats lossless audio and a nice set of cans.
Yes. And like an asshole I just bought Sirens from the 10c. But, damn if it doesn't sound amazing in Lossless format with good headphones. Ed sounds like a crackling fire. I already liked the song but it is worth it to jump through the hoops for the lossless stuff.
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I think BOB deserves allot of credit for this live version. Mccready admits BOB helped him arrange the song. now I do agree that the studio is the lesser of the two but BOB deserves credit for the arrangment as much as he deserves criticism for the studio production.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:I'm telling you people, the live and studio versions are night and day different. I actually don't mind the live version in the video (although I still find the solo cringe worthy and totally unnecessary).

YEa, its already been established they are different. I fucking love the live version. Love
I didn't mean subtle differences, I was really referring to the overall quality of the song. The studio is just too polished and over the top.

oh! Yea, fuck BOB for sure.
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Dugg wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
AllNiteThing wrote:With headphones it's like listening to an album for the first time, even if you've been familiar with it for decades.
:thumbsup:

Nothing beats lossless audio and a nice set of cans.
Yes. And like an asshole I just bought Sirens from the 10c. But, damn if it doesn't sound amazing in Lossless format with good headphones. Ed sounds like a crackling fire. I already liked the song but it is worth it to jump through the hoops for the lossless stuff.

You didn't preorder the album through them? If you did, the download link for the single would be in your order history automatically, for free.
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AllNiteThing wrote:
Dugg wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
AllNiteThing wrote:With headphones it's like listening to an album for the first time, even if you've been familiar with it for decades.
:thumbsup:

Nothing beats lossless audio and a nice set of cans.
Yes. And like an asshole I just bought Sirens from the 10c. But, damn if it doesn't sound amazing in Lossless format with good headphones. Ed sounds like a crackling fire. I already liked the song but it is worth it to jump through the hoops for the lossless stuff.

You didn't preorder the album through them? If you did, the download link for the single would be in your order history automatically, for free.
Nope, and I already have a rip, so yeah, I'm an idiot but usually that costs me more than a buck.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

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My view. Once again the band and Ed's lyrics amaze me. Did not expect this. Its majestic. So proud to have stuck with them after all these years. What a powerful song. Wow. Thank you Pearl Jam. This song is epic, acoustic guitars, effects, piano, sick lyrics, uh matt killing it, stone grooving with jeff, and of course mr.mcready just showing everybody what a class act does with a guitar. Yes!!!
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I am definitely not sold on the lyrics but its all about the phrasing and the delivery...
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Strat wrote:I am definitely not sold on the lyrics but its all about the phrasing and the delivery...
yeah and im not sure this will stand the test of time
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LetMeSleep wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I haven't paid attention to anything today. What's this talk of a video and a 10c download?
Front page of TSIS has the video. 10c guys who bought album get a Sirens dl.
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After listening to this a few times, MYM came up on my ipod and I realized that I actually like Sirens better than MYM. After Sirens, MYM sounds like standard fare for PJ. Believe it or not, but Sirens is the much more ballsy move for them right now (if writing a pop song can be considered ballsy? :lol: )

10 years ago I probably would've been appalled if they tried to do something like this. But now, it really works for me big time (and I have no idea why). It feels like PJ is teaching a master class (POP401) to all those losers that devote their whole lives to writing crap for the radio but still can't seem to get that shit right. PJ get it freakin' right, even when it's not their domain, or their territory to be hanging out in. But after this, I'm not so sure that I don't want to hear some more attempts from them to "experiment" with this kind of vibe. We'll see, Sirens place within the context of the full album will be the final deciding factor. I'm just really thankful that this isn't horrible. :nice:
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Strat wrote:I am definitely not sold on the lyrics but its all about the phrasing and the delivery...

Just my opinion, but I think the lyrics are fantastic. Such a cool narrative for a song. I've been woken up by sirens before too. Who hasn't? I totally see how/why Ed went with this direction when he heard them. That part, at least to me, is so cool. I can see why he wrote it, he's into his wife and was thinking about the person in ambulance and the day it's him. It was a shot in the dark he heard em' and already had McCready's jam, then he went with it.
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super nintendo chalmers wrote:Danced in laughter with the ever after.

Yikes.
i think it was daughtry who said, "all that i'm after is a life full of laughter." i feel like his name has come up today.
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Listened on a crappy speaker on my netbook but it sounds a lot more interesting than MYM, despite my initial panic that Ed sounds like he could give Country Top 40 a try next.
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daft twat wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:Danced in laughter with the ever after.

Yikes.
i think it was daughtry who said, "all that i'm after is a life full of laughter." i feel like his name has come up today.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I haven't paid attention to anything today. What's this talk of a video and a 10c download?
- there's a video of the band playing the song live (in a studio, anyway)
- if you pre-ordered the album through 10C you can download Sirens in MP3/FLAC from pearljam.com

Oh, and I like the song; that's clearly news.
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im loving mike´s solo in the live version.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

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Strat wrote:Ok here is my rip of the video.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/uwp2vq


Ripped it using Audacity and Soundflower etc...

Wav

Hopefully it will suffice.
Thanks for getting this up so quick :thumbsup:

I noticed a glitch around 2:43 so I uploaded another version demuxed directly from the youtube mp4 file.

Unfortunately this pure version still has the MYM intro at the end so I also converted to WAV to edit it out and up the volume by a few dB while I was at it:

https://mega.co.nz/#F!a9gQmCKY!cLssDBOhVUM7QGrLEkBjAQ
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Without any commentary from me, my wife laughed and rolled her eyes when I played her this video.
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