Will he be a Hall of Famer?

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:34 pm

Have we done Philip Rivers yet?

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:40 pm

Fifth all time in passing yards and TDs, two-time league leader in yards, eight time pro-bowler. On the other hand, basically zero post-season success. I bet he gets in.

Peeps · Post by **Peeps** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:42 pm

Simple Torture wrote:Have we done Philip Rivers yet?

his wife has

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:43 pm

Peeps wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Have we done Philip Rivers yet?

his wife has

I doubt she plays a very active role.

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:45 pm

Mickey wrote:Fifth all time in passing yards and TDs, two-time league leader in yards, eight time pro-bowler. On the other hand, basically zero post-season success. I bet he gets in.

He would probably get in based on the cumulative stats alone, but he's also in the top 15 all-time in like every per category as well. PFHOF tends to be a bit "wider" than other HOFs, too, so I don't think he'll be docked for his playoff success.

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:48 pm

Simple Torture wrote:
Mickey wrote:Fifth all time in passing yards and TDs, two-time league leader in yards, eight time pro-bowler. On the other hand, basically zero post-season success. I bet he gets in.
He would probably get in based on the cumulative stats alone, but he's also in the top 15 all-time in like every per category as well. PFHOF tends to be a bit "wider" than other HOFs, too, so I don't think he'll be docked for his playoff success.

Yeah I don't think he'll get left out. I never thought of him as particularly great though.

spike · Post by **spike** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:57 pm

Simple Torture wrote:Have we done Philip Rivers yet?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 4:59 pm

Matt Ryan feels like a good comp for Rivers.

spike · Post by **spike** » Wed January 20, 2021 5:15 pm

Mickey wrote:Matt Ryan feels like a good comp for Rivers.

has a super bowl appearance and an mvp tho

surfndestroy · Post by **surfndestroy** » Wed January 20, 2021 5:17 pm

spike wrote:
Mickey wrote:Matt Ryan feels like a good comp for Rivers.
has a super bowl appearance and an mvp tho

Rivers was a top ten and often top five qb just about every season. Ryan cannot say the same.

spike · Post by **spike** » Wed January 20, 2021 5:30 pm

surfndestroy wrote:
spike wrote:
Mickey wrote:Matt Ryan feels like a good comp for Rivers.
has a super bowl appearance and an mvp tho
Rivers was a top ten and often top five qb just about every season. Ryan cannot say the same.

cool. how were his stats in the one league championship game he played in?

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 5:36 pm

I think in different ways both Rivers and Ryan were very good but never great. If I had to guess I would say that Rivers form of being good-not-great gets him into the HOF, Ryan's does not (at the moment). But they're easily a step down from Brees, Brady, Manning, and Rogers.

spike · Post by **spike** » Wed January 20, 2021 5:57 pm

Mickey wrote:I think in different ways both Rivers and Ryan were very good but never great. If I had to guess I would say that Rivers form of being good-not-great gets him into the HOF, Ryan's does not (at the moment). But they're easily a step down from Brees, Brady, Manning, and Rogers.

neither elevates their team to another level. just look at all the up and down seasons the falcons go through now, and the ones the chargers went through with rivers under center.

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 6:23 pm

Yeah exactly.

Orpheus · Post by **Orpheus** » Wed January 20, 2021 8:41 pm

I'd argue both had to deal with pretty shitty front offices/management. Rivers had a year with the #1 offense ruined because they literally couldn't get a long snap off half the time. Just brutal.

Post by **Mickey** » Wed January 20, 2021 8:46 pm

Victim culture strikes again

Post by **epilogue** » Wed January 20, 2021 9:20 pm

I have no doubt Rivers will eventually get into the Hall of Fame.

Rivers absolutely does not belong in the Hall of Fame.

Chris_H_2 · Post by **Chris_H_2** » Wed January 20, 2021 10:52 pm

epilogue wrote:I have no doubt Rivers will eventually get into the Hall of Fame.

Rivers absolutely does not belong in the Hall of Fame.

does dan marino?

Self · Post by **Self** » Wed January 20, 2021 11:10 pm

Marino was 1B for an era. Ballin' out before Indy got mad and made it so DBs couldn't touch WRs.

daft twat · Post by **daft twat** » Thu January 21, 2021 2:40 am

Rivers is top 5 all time in big categories and second in most consecutive games started. If the rest of his teams were ever top five, he’d have a ring. I hate when people place championship win as the defining category. Dilfer didn’t lead his team to theirs. Big Nick Dick totally did, but he’s not a hall of famer. Bradshaw has 4, but with equal talent around them, you’d rather have Rivers be your guy. To me, if you finish top ten in multiple major statistical categories or you win multiple Super Bowls (can’t be a fluke), you should be automatically in.

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