I know, you are just overwhelmed by the illusory futility of everything. I mean, who cares, right? It´s only music. But we care, goddammit! We are passionate people in an unpassionate world!Hypnosomnia wrote:Cheer up! this is going to be a great album!harmless wrote:Most likely, just not diagnosed.Hypnosomnia wrote:Man, you sure are a little bipolar.harmless wrote:I dunno, it's not the songs. I'm just not having a great time of it, that's all. Carry on.
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I feel like they don't enjoy making music with each other as much. I dunno why. Hence why being able to do what they like has translated into not much really. Or well, didn't Bo'B say in one of the many interviews that they don't record together that often? We never really hear 'oh this is a song me and stone wrote one day when we we're hanging out and goofing round'. It's probably the family stuff really, can't begrudge them for that.harmless wrote:People say well, they're independent, so they can choose who they like.
But well, OK, why don't they choose Stone? He has a recording studio. Jeff is doing the artwork anyway, they can hire video producers if they want. Kapow! Lightning Bolt.
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People work full work weeks and still have plenty of time for their families. These guys recorded about 6 total weeks in 5 years. They just don't have great chemistry anymore as songwriters.stupidmop wrote:I feel like they don't enjoy making music with each other as much. I dunno why. Hence why being able to do what they like has translated into not much really. Or well, didn't Bo'B say in one of the many interviews that they don't record together that often? We never really hear 'oh this is a song me and stone wrote one day when we we're hanging out and goofing round'. It's probably the family stuff really, can't begrudge them for that really.harmless wrote:People say well, they're independent, so they can choose who they like.
But well, OK, why don't they choose Stone? He has a recording studio. Jeff is doing the artwork anyway, they can hire video producers if they want. Kapow! Lightning Bolt.
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:(True. 6 weeks in 5 years says they're not really trying to get some chemistry going either.verb_to_trust wrote:People work full work weeks and still have plenty of time for their families. These guys recorded about 6 total weeks in 5 years. They just don't have great chemistry anymore as songwriters.stupidmop wrote:I feel like they don't enjoy making music with each other as much. I dunno why. Hence why being able to do what they like has translated into not much really. Or well, didn't Bo'B say in one of the many interviews that they don't record together that often? We never really hear 'oh this is a song me and stone wrote one day when we we're hanging out and goofing round'. It's probably the family stuff really, can't begrudge them for that really.harmless wrote:People say well, they're independent, so they can choose who they like.
But well, OK, why don't they choose Stone? He has a recording studio. Jeff is doing the artwork anyway, they can hire video producers if they want. Kapow! Lightning Bolt.
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And this, more than the songs themselves, makes me think look, announce a hiatus or just give up, rather than doing this.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
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Thing is, for years now I've been looking for reasons why I might be wrong but haven't found any. If anyone would like to put some forward, I'm all eyes.
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harmless wrote:I dunno, it's not the songs. I'm just not having a great time of it, that's all. Carry on.
I think maybe your problem with it, and mine too, is that this feels like a Brendan O'Brien record, not Pearl Jam. I blame it on BoB doing all the interviews and the band saying nothing. But everything I hear, I think "Oh that's Brendan. Oh I'm sure Brendan did that. I bet Brendan came up with that"
I'm probably wrong about that, but it's just the way it feels.
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I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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I think the band just don't really enjoy interviews that much (and honestly, who would?). Apart from the listening parties, Brendan hasn't been that involved in the promotional stuff.Vindicator wrote:harmless wrote:I dunno, it's not the songs. I'm just not having a great time of it, that's all. Carry on.
I think maybe your problem with it, and mine too, is that this feels like a Brendan O'Brien record, not Pearl Jam. I blame it on BoB doing all the interviews and the band saying nothing. But everything I hear, I think "Oh that's Brendan. Oh I'm sure Brendan did that. I bet Brendan came up with that"
I'm probably wrong about that, but it's just the way it feels.
Harmless: I don't know what to suggest other than, I don't know, perhaps stop thinking about Pearl Jam for a bit? None of this really matters.
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Truth.Birds in Hell wrote:I think the band just don't really enjoy interviews that much (and honestly, who would?). Apart from the listening parties, Brendan hasn't been that involved in the promotional stuff.Vindicator wrote:harmless wrote:I dunno, it's not the songs. I'm just not having a great time of it, that's all. Carry on.
I think maybe your problem with it, and mine too, is that this feels like a Brendan O'Brien record, not Pearl Jam. I blame it on BoB doing all the interviews and the band saying nothing. But everything I hear, I think "Oh that's Brendan. Oh I'm sure Brendan did that. I bet Brendan came up with that"
I'm probably wrong about that, but it's just the way it feels.
Harmless: I don't know what to suggest other than, I don't know, perhaps stop thinking about Pearl Jam for a bit? None of this really matters.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Birds in Hell wrote:I think the band just don't really enjoy interviews that much (and honestly, who would?). Apart from the listening parties, Brendan hasn't been that involved in the promotional stuff.Vindicator wrote:harmless wrote:I dunno, it's not the songs. I'm just not having a great time of it, that's all. Carry on.
I think maybe your problem with it, and mine too, is that this feels like a Brendan O'Brien record, not Pearl Jam. I blame it on BoB doing all the interviews and the band saying nothing. But everything I hear, I think "Oh that's Brendan. Oh I'm sure Brendan did that. I bet Brendan came up with that"
I'm probably wrong about that, but it's just the way it feels.
Harmless: I don't know what to suggest other than, I don't know, perhaps stop thinking about Pearl Jam for a bit? None of this really matters.
Nah, I think it's okay to obsess about PJ in the months before an album release. A couple months after it's out and we see them on tour, we'll all go back to not thinking abut them at all for another five years . . . . .
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Yes, unless you go far back enough to when ed was over-emotional and oversharing and wouldn't know a poker face if it walked up to him and bought him dinner.harmless wrote:Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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I'm really happy that Ed is a grateful Mayan, anyway.
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When was that?stupidmop wrote:Yes, unless you go far back enough to when ed was over-emotional and oversharing and wouldn't know a poker face if it walked up to him and bought him dinner.harmless wrote:Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
er i'd say 94 and previousharmless wrote:When was that?stupidmop wrote:Yes, unless you go far back enough to when ed was over-emotional and oversharing and wouldn't know a poker face if it walked up to him and bought him dinner.harmless wrote:Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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If I knew they'd said "Uh Brendan, uh... fuck it, OK, make us famous", it would be pretty cool.stupidmop wrote:er i'd say 94 and previousharmless wrote:When was that?stupidmop wrote:Yes, unless you go far back enough to when ed was over-emotional and oversharing and wouldn't know a poker face if it walked up to him and bought him dinner.harmless wrote:Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
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No it wouldn'tharmless wrote:If I knew they'd said "Uh Brendan, uh... fuck it, OK, make us famous", it would be pretty cool.stupidmop wrote:er i'd say 94 and previousharmless wrote:When was that?stupidmop wrote:Yes, unless you go far back enough to when ed was over-emotional and oversharing and wouldn't know a poker face if it walked up to him and bought him dinner.harmless wrote:Did they do this when they were awesome? Remain so poker-faced and business-like about everything for the press?stupidmop wrote:So does Jeff! I'm pretty sure he said he hates it and wish they'd record more.Mike wrote:6 weeks making a record but probably 50 weeks of touring. I wish it was the other way round.
I'm sure a large part of this has to do with how awful everyone is at interviews. We'd never really know if they were super excited/inspired because they mostly give the same interview.harmless wrote:I think the "fixing" of songs, yet still being friends, can be explained by the fact that they just don't have time in the studio to jam and cook the songs. That's for young people. They just have ideas, and BO'B says "That one, that one, that one", and puts them into an electrical gadget then says "Play!" The word "Efficiency" was used a lot during Backspacer. Do other bands use words like that? Or do they go in and jam it out till it's done? Jamming *may* be for young people, but it's also for people with divergent styles who want to make a unified, consistent showcase of a band's best music.
Would it? no. i don't know.
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