Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[stip]

Anyone else find it weird that this band that is damn near HoF induction is just making songs to sound like other artists?

"Oh, this is my Dead Kennedys song."

"Oh, that one? That's my Pink Floyd song."

I don't necessarily hate the result, but these songs are more than just influenced. Shit, Roger Waters could take over vocals for Ed on Sirens, and you might not even notice.

This...theyve been doing that big time since ST....I remember when i first heard ST i thought some of it reminded me of Modest Mouse and some other bands that were popular at the time..It seems they are trying to emulate todays popular artists to get back in the spotlight...Its almost like a mid life crisis....I mean theyve ripped bands off before ST but not so blatantly.......

I know, and who is more popular than hipster bands like the dead kennedys and pink floyd...

[verb_to_trust]

Anyone else find it weird that this band that is damn near HoF induction is just making songs to sound like other artists?

"Oh, this is my Dead Kennedys song."

"Oh, that one? That's my Pink Floyd song."

I don't necessarily hate the result, but these songs are more than just influenced. Shit, Roger Waters could take over vocals for Ed on Sirens, and you might not even notice.

This...theyve been doing that big time since ST....I remember when i first heard ST i thought some of it reminded me of Modest Mouse and some other bands that were popular at the time..It seems they are trying to emulate todays popular artists to get back in the spotlight...Its almost like a mid life crisis....I mean theyve ripped bands off before ST but not so blatantly.......

I know, and who is more popular than hipster bands like the dead kennedys and pink floyd...

Stip's right guys, its really more about laziness.

[B]

Anyone else find it weird that this band that is damn near HoF induction is just making songs to sound like other artists?

"Oh, this is my Dead Kennedys song."

"Oh, that one? That's my Pink Floyd song."

I don't necessarily hate the result, but these songs are more than just influenced. Shit, Roger Waters could take over vocals for Ed on Sirens, and you might not even notice.

This...theyve been doing that big time since ST....I remember when i first heard ST i thought some of it reminded me of Modest Mouse and some other bands that were popular at the time..It seems they are trying to emulate todays popular artists to get back in the spotlight...Its almost like a mid life crisis....I mean theyve ripped bands off before ST but not so blatantly.......

I know, and who is more popular than hipster bands like the dead kennedys and pink floyd...

Someone's going to have to point out the Modest Mouse sound to me on Avocado.

[digster]

I kind of feel like that's the way a lot of songwriters write; they may just be willing to say who they're ripping off.

[yokkov]

Maybe this is me not playing really well-versed in Floyd, but I don't hear much of them in Sirens at all. I don't doubt that's where it started, but I don't feel like that's where it ended up.

I completely agree. Maybe if your talking about like rogers led Floyd like Mother or something on the final cut or Gilmour led Floyd in the 90s and such (which I don't really know at all) this could sound like it. Actually I take this back. This sounds nothing like Mother. Also like Pink Floyd is dark side of the moon! and meddle! and wish you were here and those albums. This song bears absolutely no resemblance to Pink Floyd when it was really Pink Floyd. I could see it maybe being like a Lady Gaga song though!

[B]

And why the fuck did Strat respond to me by reporting my post as warez??

[verb_to_trust]

Maybe this is me not playing really well-versed in Floyd, but I don't hear much of them in Sirens at all. I don't doubt that's where it started, but I don't feel like that's where it ended up.

I completely agree. Maybe if your talking about like rogers led Floyd like Mother or something on the final cut or Gilmour led Floyd in the 90s and such (which I don't really know at all) this could sound like it. Actually I take this back. This sounds nothing like Mother. Also like Pink Floyd is dark side of the moon! and meddle! and wish you were here and those albums. This song bears absolutely no resemblance to Pink Floyd when it was really Pink Floyd. I could see it maybe being like a Lady Gaga Train song though!

[B]

I kind of feel like that's the way a lot of songwriters write; they may just be willing to say who they're ripping off.

But why is a band with a long back catalog of original music suddenly writing [purposefully?] derivative stuff?

[verb_to_trust]

I kind of feel like that's the way a lot of songwriters write; they may just be willing to say who they're ripping off.

But why is a band with a long back catalog of original music suddenly writing [purposefully?] derivative stuff?

Because it takes more effort than what they are willing to give at this point in their lives to churn out something original.

[Fuzzcharger]

Anyone else find it weird that this band that is damn near HoF induction is just making songs to sound like other artists?

"Oh, this is my Dead Kennedys song."

"Oh, that one? That's my Pink Floyd song."

I don't necessarily hate the result, but these songs are more than just influenced. Shit, Roger Waters could take over vocals for Ed on Sirens, and you might not even notice.

This...theyve been doing that big time since ST....I remember when i first heard ST i thought some of it reminded me of Modest Mouse and some other bands that were popular at the time..It seems they are trying to emulate todays popular artists to get back in the spotlight...Its almost like a mid life crisis....I mean theyve ripped bands off before ST but not so blatantly.......

I know, and who is more popular than hipster bands like the dead kennedys and pink floyd...

Someone's going to have to point out the Modest Mouse sound to me on Avocado.

I'd love to be enlightened too.

[PJMosquito]

Anyone else find it weird that this band that is damn near HoF induction is just making songs to sound like other artists?

"Oh, this is my Dead Kennedys song."

"Oh, that one? That's my Pink Floyd song."

I don't necessarily hate the result, but these songs are more than just influenced. Shit, Roger Waters could take over vocals for Ed on Sirens, and you might not even notice.

I really don't agree with you here. I think that Mike can say that he was inspired by Pink Floyd, but I don't think the band goes into the studio and says, "Man, let's turn that cool Mike riff into a copycat Floyd song!"

Music is hard to describe, so artists will often compare their music to other songs/artists as references. That's really all it is. I personally only hear Pearl Jam in Pearl Jam's music...even when they compare their music to other artists' stuff.

[Jorge]

Disclaimer: I have nothing invested in reviews of this song, be they positive or negative. Just putting this here for the heck of it. Guess I found it a bit surprising that a piece this long was written about just this one song.

http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/09/p ... th-sirens/

So you think this guys a Pearl Jam fan or not?

This guy has Binaural as #2 best album of the decade so he's probably a hipster

He posts here, or at least on the old board. Great writer and big PJ fan.

He used to yell at us a lot.

[Fuzzcharger]

That is a great signature quote from Adamdude. Which discussion is it from?!

[Vindicator]

Before you guys start calling the songs derivative, why not wait to hear the full album. We have yet to hear Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and My Fathers Son, which by most accounts are going to be the most experimental (and best ) songs on the album, excluding MFS which nobody can seem to describe.

To me, Sirens has a little bit of a Pink Floyd influence, in that the solo sounds very Gilmour'ish. Everything else about it is more standard soft country love ballad stuff with a full bodied Vedder. I absolutely love the song by the way, and cannot wait to hear it live. I hope they extend the solo .

[stip]

And why the fuck did Strat respond to me by reporting my post as warez??

that confused me as well

[stip]

That is a great signature quote from Adamdude. Which discussion is it from?!

it is from one of the individual song threads. Getaway, maybe?

[Thejambi]

Before you guys start calling the songs derivative, why not wait to hear the full album. We have yet to hear Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and My Fathers Son, which by most accounts are going to be the most experimental (and best ) songs on the album, excluding MFS which nobody can seem to describe.

To me, Sirens has a little bit of a Pink Floyd influence, in that the solo sounds very Gilmour'ish. Everything else about it is more standard soft country love ballad stuff with a full bodied Vedder. I absolutely love the song by the way, and cannot wait to hear it live. I hope they extend the solo .

No.

[stip]

I kind of feel like that's the way a lot of songwriters write; they may just be willing to say who they're ripping off.

But why is a band with a long back catalog of original music suddenly writing [purposefully?] derivative stuff?

that would have been a really interesting question for someone to ask in an interview.

However, influenced by and derivative aren't always the same thing. Swallowed Whole is probably influenced by REM. It's not derivative.

[yokkov]

Before you guys start calling the songs derivative, why not wait to hear the full album. We have yet to hear Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon and My Fathers Son, which by most accounts are going to be the most experimental (and best ) songs on the album, excluding MFS which nobody can seem to describe.

To me, Sirens has a little bit of a Pink Floyd influence, in that the solo sounds very Gilmour'ish. Everything else about it is more standard soft country love ballad stuff with a full bodied Vedder. I absolutely love the song by the way, and cannot wait to hear it live. I hope they extend the solo .

Honestly I think at this point you guys are just pulling stuff out of your asses and saying this sounds like pink FLoyd because someone in the band said that at some point or something. If no one from the band had mentioned that, this comparison wouldn't even be on peoples minds! This sounds super condescending but have any of you ever even listened to Pink Floyd that hasn't been covered by Pearl Jam?!

[stip]

just baba o'riley