Coronavirus Government Bailout Thread

[simple schoolboy]

Lawmakers push Biden to offer recurring $2,000 stimulus checks

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-stim ... 021-01-30/

WTF? Why don't the law makers make the law?

Maybe they want the Treasury to just mint some trillion dollar coins. Legislating is too hard.

[elliseamos]

Lawmakers push Biden to offer recurring $2,000 stimulus checks

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-stim ... 021-01-30/

WTF? Why don't the law makers make the law?

Maybe they want the Treasury to just mint some trillion dollar coins. Legislating is too hard.

Can I short sell this? Are we going to band together and make some loot or what?? I'm trying to grapple with this newly exposed power of boards like ours. Also, I'm totally not a glowie, so you guys can tell me anything, truly...

[Norah]

Lawmakers push Biden to offer recurring $2,000 stimulus checks

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-stim ... 021-01-30/

WTF? Why don't the law makers make the law?

Did you read the article or are you just reacting to a headline?

[Simple Torture]

Lawmakers push Biden to offer recurring $2,000 stimulus checks

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-stim ... 021-01-30/

WTF? Why don't the law makers make the law?

Did you read the article or are you just reacting to a headline?

What does your heart tell you when you ask this question?

[B]

I just reacted to the headline. This IS the Internet after all.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Simple Torture]

Edit: Had to google it, but:

With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... nciliation

This is the same process the GOP tried to use to repeal the ACA, if you remember, which they weren't able to do after a few defections, including John McCain's:

The Dems have a 0% margin for error, but it appears they're united on this.

[Mickey]

Wait, is that--is that Joe Manchin's entrance music??

[elliseamos]

The house should put one budget bill together that encompasses everything Biden et al. campaigned on pass it in the senate with reconciliation and then sit around for 2 years.

[Simple Torture]

Wait, is that--is that Joe Manchin's entrance music??

[spike]

Edit: Had to google it, but:

With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... nciliation

the price: even more intense division

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Rob]

Edit: Had to google it, but:

With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... nciliation

the price: even more intense division

yes but on the plus side we could use some new furniture

And this current crop of Republicans isn't going to budge for Biden, the division isn't going anywhere. Might as well get some shit done and tell 'em "sorry, elections have consequences."

[elliseamos]

Edit: Had to google it, but:

With majorities in the House and Senate, Democratic leaders may well use a special legislative process called “reconciliation” to quickly advance high-priority fiscal legislation. Created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, reconciliation allows for expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation. In the Senate, reconciliation bills aren’t subject to filibuster and the scope of amendments is limited, giving this process real advantages for enacting controversial budget and tax measures.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... nciliation

the price: even more intense division

yes but on the plus side we could use some new furniture

And this current crop of Republicans isn't going to budge for Biden, the division isn't going anywhere. Might as well get some shit done and tell 'em "sorry, elections have consequences."

This is my feeling about things.

[BurtReynolds]

[spike]

they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?

[BurtReynolds]

they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?

What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?

[spike]

they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?

What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?

for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?

[BurtReynolds]

they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?

What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?

for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?

Where are you getting this?

That doesn't even make sense as a strategy. What if republicans say yes to this? Are democrats going to go along with it? And if they say no, then dems will just do it their way instead? So this was all just theater?

There is absolutely no reason to consider the Republican position on this at all. You might have to accept the fact that dems just don't want to do it, and won't do it unless pushed.

[spike]

they're still trying to do a bipartisan bill, so this is pressure coming from the GOP. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number checks if they go the reconciliation route?

What gave the democrats the idea that voters give a remote shit about bipartisanship or procedure, and why aren't they simply doing what they said they would do?

for better or worse, they're trying to agree on this bill so future legislation won't be fucked. but understanding the importance of the stimulus needed, they've lined up the reconciliation route as plan B. has there been any indication that they'd reduce the number of checks if they go the reconciliation route?

Where are you getting this?

That doesn't even make sense as a strategy. What if republicans say yes to this? Are democrats going to go along with it? And if they say no, then dems will just do it their way instead? So this was all just theater?

There is absolutely no reason to consider the Republican position on this at all. You might have to accept the fact that dems just don't want to do it, and won't do it unless pushed.

i'm mostly spitballing - more fun than just regurgitating tweets all day homey - but here's an article.

It was part of a two-track strategy that Mr. Biden and Democrats are employing to speed through the relief package: Show Republicans that they have the votes to pass an ambitious plan with only Democratic backing, but offer to negotiate some details in hopes of gaining Republican support.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/us/p ... check.html