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what the fuck is the pearl jam stat tracker app
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For sure.Leatherhead wrote:Bugs definitely belongs with songs like Soon Forget, Push Me Pull Me, and I'm Open.Kevin Davis wrote:I don't think "Soon Forget," "Push Me Pull Me," and "I'm Open" belong in this "songs that don't count" category. It's interesting to me, I feel like I never see "Bu$hleaguer" included on that list, even though it's basically the same concept as "PMPM" and "I'm Open" (spoken verses, sung choruses, full band performance). And "Soon Forget" probably has more going on musically (at least chordally) than plenty of "proper" PJ songs -- there are some cool things happening in that song, though the uke sound kind of obscures them. All of these songs are a bit on the non-traditional side for PJ, but so is "Dance of the Clairvoyants."Jorge wrote:What's the argument for "Soon Forget," especially, not being a "proper track"? Is it because it's just Ed?
The other songs I get, because they're kind of weird and non-traditional. I still count them but I understand the reasoning
"Pry To," "Aye Davanita," "Arc," and "Red Dot" feel very deliberately like interlude/segue tracks, not necessarily beholden to the same criteria as typical PJ songs, so I can see why you would omit them from a conversation where you're trying to measure artistic failure or success -- that they fall short of PJ's better songs doesn't really say anything damning about them, but there is also a ceiling on what they can achieve.
I'm on the fence about "Bugs."
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Push Me Pull Me is one of the best songs on Yield.
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Its not in my top 5 or 6 on the album that's for sure, but i do love it.Birds in Hell wrote:Push Me Pull Me is one of the best songs on Yield.
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Push Me Pull Me is incresingly climbingly in my list of favorite Pearl Jam songs, i'm more often in the mood for it than most of the others.
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It's a really great songchewm wrote:Push Me Pull Me is incresingly climbingly in my list of favorite Pearl Jam songs, i'm more often in the mood for it than most of the others.
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I am legitimately jealous that you are gonna get to experience this for the first time. Oh to go back and live that over again...chewm wrote:what the fuck is the pearl jam stat tracker app
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This is exactly my thinking, including the question of Bugs. Wasted Reprise belongs in the second category as well.Kevin Davis wrote:I don't think "Soon Forget," "Push Me Pull Me," and "I'm Open" belong in this "songs that don't count" category. It's interesting to me, I feel like I never see "Bu$hleaguer" included on that list, even though it's basically the same concept as "PMPM" and "I'm Open" (spoken verses, sung choruses, full band performance). And "Soon Forget" probably has more going on musically (at least chordally) than plenty of "proper" PJ songs -- there are some cool things happening in that song, though the uke sound kind of obscures them. All of these songs are a bit on the non-traditional side for PJ, but so is "Dance of the Clairvoyants."Jorge wrote:What's the argument for "Soon Forget," especially, not being a "proper track"? Is it because it's just Ed?
The other songs I get, because they're kind of weird and non-traditional. I still count them but I understand the reasoning
"Pry To," "Aye Davanita," "Arc," and "Red Dot" feel very deliberately like interlude/segue tracks, not necessarily beholden to the same criteria as typical PJ songs, so I can see why you would omit them from a conversation where you're trying to measure artistic failure or success -- that they fall short of PJ's better songs doesn't really say anything damning about them, but there is also a ceiling on what they can achieve.
I'm on the fence about "Bugs."
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Bugs is a song, not an interlude track.
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sticking to only studio albums and lost dogs...
leash
bugs
arc
gone
i'm open
hold on
future days
soon forget
the end
amongst the waves
leash
bugs
arc
gone
i'm open
hold on
future days
soon forget
the end
amongst the waves
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Birds in Hell wrote:Push Me Pull Me is one of the best songs
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Wait, this thread isn't about the worst songs on their first album?
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
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Do you see what I did thoughcutuphalfdead wrote:rudd
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
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Re: Bottom 10 songs
Yeah it's been a steady grower for me as welldurdencommatyler wrote:It's a really great songchewm wrote:Push Me Pull Me is incresingly climbingly in my list of favorite Pearl Jam songs, i'm more often in the mood for it than most of the others.
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Re: Bottom 10 songs
Most definitely. Starting with Binaural, he really seemed to have have shifted his musical focus to the more eclectic, folkier, understated, weirder, unconventional side of his songwriting (Thin Air, Of the Girl, Bushleaguer, All or None, Parachutes, Buckle Up, DOTC, etc.) and has mostly excelled in this regard. But his attempts at writing a mid/uptempo rock song (outside of Rival and Life Wasted) have flat-out shit the bed, imo -- Supersonic, LTRP, Amongst the Waves, Johnny Guitar.Birds in Hell wrote:Stone's songs (as combined with Ed's lyrics/vocals) really define the band's musical blueprint for me; Once, Even Flow, Alive, Black, Animal, Daughter, Dissident, Last Exit, STBC, Hail Hail, DTE, etc.tyweed wrote:ND isn't terrible, but man I wish Stone could've come up with even just one crunchy, riff-driven track to supplant Ed's mediocre musical effort here. I'm not asking for a DTE or Hail, Hail but even just something at a Life Wasted-level would have been better.
I really feel the absence of those flagship Gossard-penned tunes on most of the band's records in the last two decades, including Gigaton.
But I realize this isn't a post-Yield Stone Gossard songwriting symposium so I'll jump back to the matter at hand and add to my original list by saying that Unthought Known is astoundingly overrated.
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Bugs and Red Dot are hands-down better than most of their post-2002 output.
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Very disappointed with those who have U on their lists.
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Not sure if I replied to this in the past, but this is a really hard list for me to curate, mostly because I apparently have a positive ear and enjoy nearly every Pearl Jam song...but here’s my best list least favorite to 10th least favorite:
1) Future Days
2) Turning Mist
3) Angel
4) Pry, To
5) Stupid Mop
6) Bee Girl
7) Sweet Lew
8) Evil Little Goat
9) Johnny Guitar
10) Can’t Deny Me
1) Future Days
2) Turning Mist
3) Angel
4) Pry, To
5) Stupid Mop
6) Bee Girl
7) Sweet Lew
8) Evil Little Goat
9) Johnny Guitar
10) Can’t Deny Me