The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[simple schoolboy]

Fwiw, my folks had an array installed on their place in MA about five years ago, to the tune of $20K. MA allows them to sell excess power back to the grid, and they generate about $250-500/mo in passive income, depending on the month. They’ll have recouped the expense in roughly another year and a half, or 7.5 years total since their purchase.

Do they have battery backup?

[simple schoolboy]

Fwiw, my folks had an array installed on their place in MA about five years ago, to the tune of $20K. MA allows them to sell excess power back to the grid, and they generate about $250-500/mo in passive income, depending on the month. They’ll have recouped the expense in roughly another year and a half, or 7.5 years total since their purchase.

Do they have battery backup?

Appologies to Trag and Self for imposing emotional labor.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[96583UP]

my point simply was that lots of nerds with computers are working on this now and i am confident they will make them more efficient and less expensive sooner than people expect

and there is a lot of private money interested in said breakthroughs and we won't need government subsidy once that happens

TSLA already has home battery backup but it's expensive

but there are so many nerds working on improving batteries right now it's just a matter of time

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[worldwithyourheart]

In all seriousness, the eventual outcome of this should be Republican backed legislation that provides ample incentive for large utilities to diversify their portfolios and trade on the grid for renewable energies

i have faith that technological advancement will come sooner rather than later that will make solar more productive and affordable such that we'll be able to de-centralize the grid and won't be significantly reliant on the utilities in 10 years time. in times like these having home battery storage as backup will be the key.

better technology doesn't require politicians - just investment capital (which there is tons of)

the Nerds will save us

Solar, wind and hydro generated power is nowhere ready to make a huge impact on our dependency on fossil fuels, especially in the northeast US and colder regions. Solar, wind and hydro generate about 20% of all electricity (solar being about 5 -6%). Fossil fuels, nuclear and burning trash generates about 60%.

One main reason renewable energy is as high as 20% is due to government tax breaks and kickbacks. It's not quite sustainable on it's own.

Home battery backup generated by solar panels costs about $5,000 just for the batteries! Without government kickbacks, a home solar panel system with batteries cost about $15,000 installed and takes a good 12 plus years to re-cooperate investment. Way too long.

I remember during the 1980's companies trying to sell solar to homeowner's. Here it is nearly 40 years later and it still isn't fully sustainable.

I don't think you understood my post

or wanted to

I believe I did, and I want to, but it's not reality. Power companies don't want to buy power from homeowners trying to make a buck. It's a nuisance. Homeowner's need to generate and store the electricity for it's own use. You need batteries. It's too expensive without government subsidizing it. Govt can't do it forever.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[elliseamos]

In all seriousness, the eventual outcome of this should be Republican backed legislation that provides ample incentive for large utilities to diversify their portfolios and trade on the grid for renewable energies

i have faith that technological advancement will come sooner rather than later that will make solar more productive and affordable such that we'll be able to de-centralize the grid and won't be significantly reliant on the utilities in 10 years time. in times like these having home battery storage as backup will be the key.

better technology doesn't require politicians - just investment capital (which there is tons of)

the Nerds will save us

Solar, wind and hydro generated power is nowhere ready to make a huge impact on our dependency on fossil fuels, especially in the northeast US and colder regions. Solar, wind and hydro generate about 20% of all electricity (solar being about 5 -6%). Fossil fuels, nuclear and burning trash generates about 60%.

One main reason renewable energy is as high as 20% is due to government tax breaks and kickbacks. It's not quite sustainable on it's own.

Home battery backup generated by solar panels costs about $5,000 just for the batteries! Without government kickbacks, a home solar panel system with batteries cost about $15,000 installed and takes a good 12 plus years to re-cooperate investment. Way too long.

I remember during the 1980's companies trying to sell solar to homeowner's. Here it is nearly 40 years later and it still isn't fully sustainable.

I don't think you understood my post

or wanted to

I believe I did, and I want to, but it's not reality. Power companies don't want to buy power from homeowners trying to make a buck. It's a nuisance. Homeowner's need to generate and store the electricity for it's own use. You need batteries. It's too expensive without government subsidizing it. Govt can't do it forever.

Can you point me towards some reading to back up the bold part of your claim?

Fossil Fuels aren't subsidized?

[simple schoolboy]

In all seriousness, the eventual outcome of this should be Republican backed legislation that provides ample incentive for large utilities to diversify their portfolios and trade on the grid for renewable energies

i have faith that technological advancement will come sooner rather than later that will make solar more productive and affordable such that we'll be able to de-centralize the grid and won't be significantly reliant on the utilities in 10 years time. in times like these having home battery storage as backup will be the key.

better technology doesn't require politicians - just investment capital (which there is tons of)

the Nerds will save us

Solar, wind and hydro generated power is nowhere ready to make a huge impact on our dependency on fossil fuels, especially in the northeast US and colder regions. Solar, wind and hydro generate about 20% of all electricity (solar being about 5 -6%). Fossil fuels, nuclear and burning trash generates about 60%.

One main reason renewable energy is as high as 20% is due to government tax breaks and kickbacks. It's not quite sustainable on it's own.

Home battery backup generated by solar panels costs about $5,000 just for the batteries! Without government kickbacks, a home solar panel system with batteries cost about $15,000 installed and takes a good 12 plus years to re-cooperate investment. Way too long.

I remember during the 1980's companies trying to sell solar to homeowner's. Here it is nearly 40 years later and it still isn't fully sustainable.

I don't think you understood my post

or wanted to

I believe I did, and I want to, but it's not reality. Power companies don't want to buy power from homeowners trying to make a buck. It's a nuisance. Homeowner's need to generate and store the electricity for it's own use. You need batteries. It's too expensive without government subsidizing it. Govt can't do it forever.

Can you point me towards some reading to back up the bold part of your claim?

Fossil Fuels aren't subsidized?

Fossil fuels have the convenient property of being able to be used at peak load times. When all of the home generated power occurs during the middle of the day, that just means that more grid level producers have to idle. The total output of the centralized producers doesn't decrease, they just have to pay for facilities that are only used during peak demand hours.

There isn't very much grid level battery capacity out there.

[simple schoolboy]

Appologies to self again, for all the emotional labor involved.

(Per anectdotes) In the traditionally warmer parts of texas, they tend to put the water heater in the attic. The only thing I can make sense of is using passive heating of the water heater/ dumping waste heat out of the attic vents in the summer to reduce heating the rest of the house.

Is there something I'm missing?

In any case, an accurate forcast of a week well below freezing would've been helpful

[BurtReynolds]

I can't believe my parents watch this shit.

I can't believe anyone reads this shit:

"It just symbolizes everything"

"I think showing the love that he has not just for his wife, but his family will help us heal. Because after all, now Joe Biden inherited 321 million family members."

"On a mission to rebuild institutional norms and help heal a hurting nation, Joe and Jill Biden are trying something novel after four years of the Trumps: a little tenderness."

ROFLMAOLOLO fucking kill me

[The Argonaut]

It is very stupid, but what's even stupider is Tucker deciding that because it is positive about someone he doesn't like, he needs to tell people that it's a lie. I look at that and think "what a weird, dumb article". Tucker looks at that and thinks "guess I have to make up a lie about how that is not true and pretend that the people I don't like are nefarious liars". Guy's a maniac

[BurtReynolds]

Just sounds like what happens when two raging propagandists collide. Neither even attempting to sound like real news anymore. Just pure, uncut bullshit. Inject it directly into my veins!

[The Argonaut]

They're different, though. The first sees that Joe Biden loves his wife, decides to write about that for some reason, and turns the schlock up to 11. Tucker sees the piece about Joe Biden loving his wife and decides to just make up a lie that Joe Biden does not love his wife. He's demented

[BurtReynolds]

I don't see a difference.

If the Clintons taught us anything, is that decades-long sham marriages are certainly possible, so naturally he'd take that story and transfer it to Biden. I don't think it works though. Biden is too likeable.

[Mickey]

I don't see a difference.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[BurtReynolds]

They are both lies. I definitely don't think this guy just out of the blue decided to write an article about the deep love the Bidens feel for each other after seeing them kiss. This is just an ad that he was paid to write, and we're supposed to pretend it reflects reality.

[BurtReynolds]

I don't see a difference.

I knew that would trigger your appearance. That's why I put it in, establishment protector.