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McParadigm wrote:lol
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holy cow, forgot about that Bonilla thing.
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“Pitcher and catchers report”, what a wonderful phrase.
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How 'bout them Mariners, huh?
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elliseamos wrote:How 'bout them Mariners, huh?
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I was glad when I saw this. If he hung around for 3 more he might have made a run at Aarons RBI record. Miggys over 500 behind and the only other player in the top 100 thats still active. Yeah yeah, records are meant to be broken, just seems like Aaron should hold the RBI and Total Bases record forever after Bonds getting the HR record.

Yes, the Total Bases record probably will stand forever.
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Who was going to sign him anyway? He's been one of the worst players in the league for like four years
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All-time MLB leader in GIDP; they gonna put that on his Cooperstown plaque?
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wow didn't realize he held that
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The Argonaut wrote:Who was going to sign him anyway? He's been one of the worst players in the league for like four years
taking away last season
he was basically a 20+ homer, 80+ RBI, .245 hitter.
stick him at DH, market the hell out of getting to see a future hall of famer possibly break the RBI record, and a run at 700 HRs / Ruth? Someone might have taken a shot at it.
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His slash line 2017-2019: .243/.293/.407/.700. That's painful just to read.

Not to mention a negative WAR over that same time. And 20-homer guys are a dime a dozen these days, so that doesn't make up for it.
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The Argonaut wrote:His slash line 2017-2019: .243/.293/.407/.700. That's painful just to read.

Not to mention a negative WAR over that same time. And 20-homer guys are a dime a dozen these days, so that doesn't make up for it.
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marquis grissom > pujols
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Pujols is the best player of his generation
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I’m disappointed on the Universal DH getting shelved and expanded playoffs.
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Electromatic wrote:I’m disappointed on the Universal DH getting shelved and expanded playoffs.
I thought expanded playoffs was a shoo-in. That was great last year.

Universal DH wasn't too bad but I can see them wanting to go back to normal this time around. But it probably will be implemented in the coming years.
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The Argonaut wrote:Pujols is the best player of his generation
I wanted to fool around with this a bit, so I looked for all the players who debuted five years prior to Pujols and 5 years after who had a 50+ career WAR:

1996 - Rolen (70.1), Andruw Jones (62.7), Abreu (60.2), Vlad (59.5)
1997 - Helton (61.8), Ortiz (55.3), Hunter (50.7)
1998 - Beltre (93.6), Beltran (70.1), and Halladay (64.2)
1999 - Tim Hudson (57.9) and Lance Berkamn (52)
2000 - Buehrle (59.1) and Johan Santana (51.7)
2001 - Pujols (100.7), Sabathia (62.5), Ichiro (59.7), and Roy Oswalt (50)
2002 - Highest was Cliff Lee (43.2)
2003 - Miggy (69.6), Utley (64.4), Teixeira (60.6)
2004 - Greinke (72.2), Mauer (55.3)
2005 - Verlander (71.8), Cano (69.1), Felix Hernandez (50.1)
2006 - Hamels (59.4), Kinsler (55.2), Pedroia (51.6)

It's not even really that close by this metric. I was surprised Beltre was next on the list, and I'm ride-or-die for him in the HOF, but Pujols is definitely above him.
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Ichiro is the only player who comes close, WAR aside
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Yeah I thought for a minute about challenging Asher's claim before realizing he was right and it's not even close.
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