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spike wrote:EXTREME OWNERSHIP
I just finished the book and it has me pumped up to start suing more people.
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Bammer wrote:
spike wrote:EXTREME OWNERSHIP
I just finished the book and it has me pumped up to start suing more people.
weird takeaway
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spike wrote:
Bammer wrote:
spike wrote:EXTREME OWNERSHIP
I just finished the book and it has me pumped up to start suing more people.
weird takeaway
I don’t think you know the Bammer persona very well
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Google 2017: Opening the Google AI China Center
Google 2019: Google leaves Project Maven AI program
Google tech lead Eric Schmidt in 2021: ‘U.S. is not prepared to defend or compete in the A.I. era’
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China breaching every act in genocide convention, says legal report on Uighurs:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ark-report
In Beijing on Monday, China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, told reporters that claims of genocide in Xinjiang “could not be more preposterous”. “It is a rumour fabricated with ulterior motives and a total lie,” Wang said.

But they are totally, pinky-swear-cross-my-heart-hope-to-die, being truthful about the WIV lab and the origin of COVID-19.
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Not a Maher fan, but this is spot on:

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Good video, but man his audience is so obnoxious.
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Quick! Everybody points fingers at why he's right.
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If true, this is rather worrying. If they don't understand how their rhetoric sounds to us, what else is not getting across?
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simple schoolboy wrote: If true, this is rather worrying. If they don't understand how their rhetoric sounds to us, what else is not getting across?
What makes you think they don't know how their rhetoric sounds to us? Why assume the problem is on their side?
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simple schoolboy wrote: If true, this is rather worrying. If they don't understand how their rhetoric sounds to us, what else is not getting across?
What makes you think they don't know how their rhetoric sounds to us? Why assume the problem is on their side?
Stepping back to shitposting, they are using accounts on social media to try to manage the discussion that can't be accessed by the majority of their countrymen. Clearly what they do on Twitter/ Facebook/ Etc is not intended for their internal audience. Their inability to be effective shitposters means either they don't care and are doing it out of habit or they don't understand what makes us tick. The Russians aren't exactly breaking the bank on their efforts, but at least it normally comes across as a plausible worldview from our perspective.

Maybe these big, public pronouncements at the talks are intended for an internal audience, or at least to those globally in their orbit.
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Speaking of ineffective shitposting:
What makes the Russians the masters of shitposting psyops?
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I struggle to believe that the Pentagon design memes.
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If anything gives me hope for the future, it's the incompetence of deep state security agencies in regard to memetic warfare compared to the average 4channer.
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BurtReynolds wrote:If anything gives me hope for the future, it's the incompetence of deep state security agencies in regard to memetic warfare compared to the average 4channer.
How do you know they're not them and their biggest meme is that they're not?
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He just wants to watch the world burn, doesn’t much care why.
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elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:If anything gives me hope for the future, it's the incompetence of deep state security agencies in regard to memetic warfare compared to the average 4channer.
How do you know they're not them and their biggest meme is that they're not?
It's a faint hope I admit. I assume everyone online is a Fed/Chinese/Russian bot.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:If anything gives me hope for the future, it's the incompetence of deep state security agencies in regard to memetic warfare compared to the average 4channer.
How do you know they're not them and their biggest meme is that they're not?
It's a faint hope I admit. I assume everyone online is a Fed/Chinese/Russian bot.
Agreed.
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Anders wrote:I struggle to believe that the Pentagon design memes.
I don't think they can compress one of their powepoint presentations into a comprehensible image.
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