Unpopular Music Opinions

[oasisfan35]

I have also had close to zero exposure to Hamilton and believe I am the better for it.

[Mickey]

Seasons of Love!

I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.

[Jorge]

I heard a four second clip from Hamilton on NPR in 2016 and it was one of the most skin-crawling experiences I've ever had. I'm still trying to delete it from my brain.

To think I used to feel bad that our tastes didn't overlap more.

The songs are great, especially "Satisfied" and "Wait for It," but I wasn't thinking of Hamilton. More the work of people like Gershwin, Porter, Kern, etc. The Great American Songbook, I'm a sucker for that stuff. I like a lot of newer musicals too, for many different reasons, but I'm not sure I'd put their songs in that category

[Bammer]

Lin Manuel Miranda was on Curb for a couple episodes and I hated every second of him on screen

[Jorge]

I very intensely dislike him too, for what it's worth

[spike]

As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.

I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.

Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.

I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.

That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.

I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunes

Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.

this is painful. music can be a lot of things.

[bodysnatcher]

*Whisper-singing* Two thousand twenty one...

I couldn’t care less one way or another about musical theater and it’s songs.

But goddamn i hate it when there’s whisper-singing.

[Mickey]

As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.

I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.

Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.

I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.

That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.

I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunes

Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.

this is painful. music can be a lot of things.

You are welcome to simp for plot and character in any other thread, this is the unpopular music opinions space.

[Malloy]

As I see it, the difference between Annie and Beck is that Annie has never presented St. Vincent as her authentic self. At least, not that I've seen -- or rather, not to a degree that feels like a con or disingenuous. She's constantly in character and she's always up front about that. Who her character is changes with each album. Each album is a play. And Annie is cast as a different lead in each new play. It doesn't come across as forced quirkiness to me. It's theater.

In interviews when she drops the latest St. Vincent character and lets Annie talk, she comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, curious, and nerdy in an endlessly endearing way. At least to me. She's guarded and protected, sure, but I can relate to that too. And I don't have the added pressures/problems of being a public figure. Or an attractive woman in an historically dangerous, masculine space.

I...honestly can't think of a description that would make me less likely to listen to her music.

Well it wasn't meant as a selling point, champ. You're either into it or you're not.

Though, I will say, of all our taste differences, this is the one that surprises me the most. I get why you don't like a lot of the artists I like. But I'm genuinely surprised that you don't like STV.

Ah well. Tis what tis.

I actually don't dislike St. Vincent, though I haven't had any interest in her project since Strange Mercy (which I really enjoyed!). But I find the whole "on this album I'm actually a character" thing nauseatingly twee, far too close to musical theater and generally poorly conceived. I have no taste for it, whether it's being done by Kanye West or David Bowie.

That makes sense. And I think draws the first concrete boundary between our tastes.

I'll use this as an opportunity to state the Unpopular Music Opinion that musical theater is fucking great, and the boring "I hate musicals" take makes me roll my eyes just as much as "I listen to everything except country and rap." Some of the greatest songs ever written are showtunes

Please take your disgusting desire for narrative out of my affect-driven art form, thanks.

a musical's affective relation to its viewers/listeners is the source of my distaste for it. i've never dug theatricality

[Kevin Davis]

Great songs can come from anywhere, and I listen to way too much old jazz to pretend I dislike showtunes, but I think there's a difference between (a) not having a taste for musical theater as a holistic experience, and (b) thinking that all songs that come from musicals are inherently terrible. Personally, I am nowhere near as intellectually or emotionally responsive to things like dance, visual production, general thespianism, as I am to music, and I think I have a more genuine -- and almost always more positive -- reaction to music (which is the thing I really care about) when it's separated from those theatrical elements. I feel like we had a discussion semi-recently about music videos, and over time I've come to feel the same way about them. I end up responding to visual cues that I think are silly or cliched or whatever, but I convince myself I'm reacting to the music.

I'm not saying I could never enjoy a musical -- I have attended plenty over the years and enjoyed myself at them -- but it's not something I personally crave or get anything special from apart from the songs, which I almost always enjoy more out of context. When I hear Petra Haden singing "On the Street Where You Live," I don't find myself thinking, "Oh man, I really want to go see My Fair Lady"; I think, "I should check out more Petra Haden" (or at the very least, "I should check out more Lerner/Loewe-penned popular standards").

[epilogue]

Seasons of Love!

I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.

I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.

[epilogue]

I very intensely dislike him too, for what it's worth

Y'all are not alone. Most of my actor friends feel the same way.

[Mickey]

Seasons of Love!

I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.

I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.

Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"

[epilogue]

Seasons of Love!

I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.

I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.

Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"

It wasn't unprompted

[Mickey]

Seasons of Love!

I was actually referring to the Hamilton Aaron Burr song but this really makes my case for me.

I wasn't replying to your post, Mickey. I knew what that was in reference to.

Bringing up Rent songs unprompted is "fucked up"

It wasn't unprompted

Shameless.

[spike]

mickey who was your favorite vegas act

[Mickey]

The bad Elvis impersonator at the Golden Gate lobby bar.

[bart]

why is Mickey singing the Michael Scott going away song?

[Ms Harmless]

this forum is so old that when I wrote "Metallica sucks" in here it felt like a hot take

or maybe it's me that's old

[Leatherhead]

Metallica's Death Magnetic is really good.