13. Hard Sun vs. Undone

Post by **stip** » Thu March 11, 2021 1:12 am

Hard Sun vs. Undone

Jaeti · Post by **Jaeti** » Thu March 11, 2021 1:34 am

Huh. First moment of hesitation for me in these early matchups.
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Think I'm going with Hard Sun. I never think of either of these as favorites, but trying to pick one over the other is making me appreciate each.

Post by **stip** » Thu March 11, 2021 1:38 am

Yeah this is really really hard. I think these are both just about 5 star songs. Undone is my second favorite song from the Binaural/Riot Act era (behind only I am Mine). But Hard Sun is amazing, and the vocal passage from about 2:12 to 2:32 is one of my favorite moments in his entire career. He can still do this (it's what makes Retrograde worth the price of admission) and it boggles the mind that this isn't a staple (it is exactly what is missing from the chorus of Amongst the Waves, for instance). I guess if Undone came on shuffle I might occasionally skip it. I will never skip Hard Sun. Gets my vote.

Jaeti · Post by **Jaeti** » Thu March 11, 2021 1:41 am

If Hard Sun was an original then it's probably an easy vote. Since it isn't, that gave me a moment of pause. But it is great.

Post by **epilogue** » Thu March 11, 2021 2:26 am

Hard Sun

liebzz · Post by **liebzz** » Thu March 11, 2021 2:36 am

epilogue wrote:Hard Sun

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Thu March 11, 2021 2:54 am

yeah, this one was difficult. I choose Hard Sun because its such a good cover. He really went for it.

Undone is still a very good song.

Post by **Bammer** » Thu March 11, 2021 2:59 am

Hard Sun is a cover?

Leatherhead · Post by **Leatherhead** » Thu March 11, 2021 4:43 am

Voting for Undone because it's Pearl Jam. Although, like Felicity's Surprise vs. Alive, I probably prefer the former in both matchups.

digster · Post by **digster** » Thu March 11, 2021 5:36 am

Undone is a song that's always just been, for lack of a better word, there. It's not bad, it's pleasant enough, and I've moved on the second it's over. It was the right choice to leave it off Riot Act and perfect as a kind of back-album curiosity for something like Lost Dogs, where all it has to do is be a pleasant listen and not have any more responsibility than that.

Hard Sun remains one of the very few songs from ITW I return to with any consistency. I feel like Eddie captures something here that he tried to return to constantly for the next several records, with far poorer results. Why PJ have never claimed this track for themselves when they've done so with one or two other iTW tracks is very surprising to me.

Post by **stip** » Thu March 11, 2021 11:32 am

Bammer wrote:Hard Sun is a cover?

It is. The original performer sued him I think. His version is not very good.

Post by **epilogue** » Thu March 11, 2021 1:23 pm

stip wrote:
Bammer wrote:Hard Sun is a cover?
It is. The original performer sued him I think. His version is not very good.

He got pissed because Ed changed some lyrics.

liebzz · Post by **liebzz** » Thu March 11, 2021 2:27 pm

If I remember correctly, the judge threw out the law suit and in his opinion noted that the artist actually made more money off Eddie Vedder’s version and it lifted his public profile rather than what the lawsuit claimed.

Post by **epilogue** » Thu March 11, 2021 3:50 pm

liebzz wrote:If I remember correctly, the judge threw out the law suit and in his opinion noted that the artist actually made more money off Eddie Vedder’s version and it lifted his public profile rather than what the lawsuit claimed.

That's my memory of it as well.

wease · Post by **wease** » Thu March 11, 2021 3:53 pm

Undone. Loved it since I first heard it.

Post by **Bammer** » Thu March 11, 2021 3:56 pm

Fuckin Eddie..

Hard Sun
Last Kiss
Inside Job

Write your own damn material, bro

Thurman Murman · Post by **Thurman Murman** » Thu March 11, 2021 4:11 pm

Hard Sun any day of the week.

Stardog Champion · Post by **Stardog Champion** » Thu March 11, 2021 6:18 pm

Hard Sun

Probably my toughest decision so far as I do enjoy Undone quite a bit.

Post by **stip** » Thu March 11, 2021 8:26 pm

this is staying open until tomorrow AM

The Town · Post by **The Town** » Thu March 11, 2021 8:58 pm

I'm sentimental about both of these.

The I Am Mine CD single was the first PJ music I owned in physical form.
I grew up downloading music on Napster and Kazaa and all that and, being 12 years old or whatever at the time, buying music just wasn't something I did.
However, on a family trip to Austin we checked out Waterloo Records and I was super excited to find PJ songs I hadn't heard before.
Waterloo was ontop of it carrying the Australian digipak import with I Am Mine, Down, Bu$hleaguer, and Undone.

I don't remember anything about taking the SAT itself, but I vividly remember listening to Hard Sun as I got dressed the morning of the test.
Powerful song.
The Water On The Road version is cool.

I gotta go with Undone between the two.

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