232. Hail Hail vs. Daughter

[Higgs]

Said it before but I'd love to see Daughter win this whole thing.

Maybe next year.

[Anders]

Hail, Hail

What an amazing song.

[PHATJ]

I’m good with either one. Maybe more likely to listen to Hail Hail.

[Anders]

Absolutely two five star songs.

[stip]

I suspect this one is closer than the actual voting

[stip]

It has also always felt a little odd to me that Daughter is so much more well regarded in these parts than Small Town, given their similarities. It feels (to me) that if you love one you're pretty likely to love the other

[Higgs]

It has also always felt a little odd to me that Daughter is so much more well regarded in these parts than Small Town, given their similarities. It feels (to me) that if you love one you're pretty likely to love the other

I love both, just that I really really love Daughter.

[Birds in Hell]

I don't think the songs are very similar at all, other than they have some acoustic guitars.

This is a tough round for me, as I think both are in the conversation for the band's very best song.

I don't really mind which wins.

[Mike]

I also love both but see enough difference in them to understand loving one and not the other. Daughter is way more of a typical Pearl Jam song that just happens to be acoustic. Elderly Woman feels more like an Eddie solo song. Daughter is riff based (A Pearl Jammy Stone riff!) and Elderly Woman is more of a traditional chord based song.
Daughter is closer to a rock song than an acoustic ballad. I can kind of imagine Daughter with (only) electric guitars.

[Chris_H_2]

It has also always felt a little odd to me that Daughter is so much more well regarded in these parts than Small Town, given their similarities. It feels (to me) that if you love one you're pretty likely to love the other

They’ve never tagged Madonna’s Ray of Light with Elderly Woman though

[stip]

and that explains why daughter is the more universally beloved

[VinylGuy]

It has also always felt a little odd to me that Daughter is so much more well regarded in these parts than Small Town, given their similarities. It feels (to me) that if you love one you're pretty likely to love the other

I dont they are similar at all...i what sense? the acoustic guitars? Daughter is a super complex song, with a great use of the band's talents. It also has a fucking cool outro and a very cool country solo.

Small Town is more of a straightforward acoustic number.

[Mike]

Genuine question: What makes Daughter super complex? Sounds pretty simple without that much variation to me.

[VinylGuy]

well, maybe not super complex, but at the time it was a very different song for the band. Kinda reggae, kinda country. I love all the elements the band give, The acoustic guitar, the country solo, the upright bass....even the drums. And the outro is wonderful.

[tragabigzanda]

I agree that Daughter has way more going on: alt tuning, funky strumming rhythm, lots of cymbal work, GREAT guitar solo that lifts the song up without losing its grounding, spooky outro.

[Strat]

I agree that Daughter has way more going on: alt tuning, funky strumming rhythm, lots of cymbal work, GREAT guitar solo that lifts the song up without losing its grounding, spooky outro.

Also a classic stone connecting riff!

That little ditty connecting the two guitar parts is fantastic.

Mike mentions how good stone is at that in PJ20. he's spot on.

[tragabigzanda]

I agree that Daughter has way more going on: alt tuning, funky strumming rhythm, lots of cymbal work, GREAT guitar solo that lifts the song up without losing its grounding, spooky outro.

Also a classic stone connecting riff!

That little ditty connecting the two guitar parts is fantastic.

Mike mentions how good stone is at that in PJ20. he's spot on.

You mean before “she holds the hand”? Yeah that part is awesome, and fairly advanced pop/rock songwriting

[Strat]

I agree that Daughter has way more going on: alt tuning, funky strumming rhythm, lots of cymbal work, GREAT guitar solo that lifts the song up without losing its grounding, spooky outro.

Also a classic stone connecting riff!

That little ditty connecting the two guitar parts is fantastic.

Mike mentions how good stone is at that in PJ20. he's spot on.

You mean before “she holds the hand”? Yeah that part is awesome, and fairly advanced pop/rock songwriting

You bet, dude.

[Norah]

I don't think the songs are very similar at all, other than they have some acoustic guitars.

This is a tough round for me, as I think both are in the conversation for the band's very best song.

I don't really mind which wins.

Yeah Daughter is top tier and Small Town is boring.

[epilogue]

I happen to love both songs and I probably rank Small Town higher but I also don't really think of them as similar songs.