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simple schoolboy wrote:Where are the promised grid level storage solutions? California is decomissioning its last nuclear plant and will be charging 'surge' pricing from 4 to 9pm in an attempt to balance demand with solar plants going offline in the evenings.
Still leaking in Nevada?





And for those that missed it, we have solved energy generation for the second time in the last 70 years... meet ANEEL:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... lear-fuel/
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Not the best headline...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... 0pollution.

Brazilian Amazon released more carbon than it absorbed over past 10 years*


Someone should do something about this. Burn it down before it kills us all!
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BurtReynolds wrote:Not the best headline...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... 0pollution.

Brazilian Amazon released more carbon than it absorbed over past 10 years*


Someone should do something about this. Burn it down before it kills us all!
"The study looked at the volume of CO2 absorbed and stored as the forest grows, against the amounts released back into the atmosphere as it has been burned down or destroyed."

As deforestation has increased in this time frame why would this be a surprise?
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Land usage required for net-zero carbon push:

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Article with legend is here, but is pay-walled for me:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021 ... e-economy/
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Considering we can offshore most of the wind, that ain’t bad at all. Not much more than we currently use for ethanol production, really.
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McParadigm wrote:Considering we can offshore most of the wind, that ain’t bad at all. Not much more than we currently use for ethanol production, really.
They address this point. zi used my elite computer skills to access the page, more screenshots soon.
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Here's better captures. that first one is so incomplete I might delete that post to not mislead.

Today:

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Proposed:

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https://netzeroamerica.princeton.edu/media




EDIT: For offshore generation we would need to have already been installing roughly 3/day at the start of this year at a density of around 8 per mile of coastline to get to that 11%. This is assuming they last >30 years.
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:thisisfine:

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We should call them names.
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elliseamos wrote:We should call them names.
Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!
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Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:We should call them names.
Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!
Isn't the point of that isolation and then a depression?
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FUCK ICE
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tragabigzanda wrote:Their bubble will burst.
And it will pollute everything.
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elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:We should call them names.
Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!
Isn't the point of that isolation and then a depression?
That was what we signed up for, their compliance was voluntary
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shouldn't the world have flooded by now?

that al gore video was 20 years ago
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FUCK ICE
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tragabigzanda wrote:Wow!

ExxonMobil rebel shareholders win board seats

Defying management, investors worried about climate change won at least two seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ard-seats/
some pretty hilarious quotes in that article

i wonder when Bill Gates' solar oven will make exxon obsolete?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business ... index.html
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96583UP wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Wow!

ExxonMobil rebel shareholders win board seats

Defying management, investors worried about climate change won at least two seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ard-seats/
some pretty hilarious quotes in that article

i wonder when Bill Gates' solar oven will make exxon obsolete?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business ... index.html
There's no way this becomes anything other than niche. I like the handwaving over thermal storage. Whats the working fluid? Are we just going to move all heavy industry to the southwest?
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If the working fluid is sodium... nukes can do that too.
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rio tinto is partnering w them to build one at a mine in california apparently
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