Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

[Rob]

You can draw whatever conclusions you want to that the media feeds you

Well I asked for your conclusion. Or did spike correctly answer?

[4/5]

I supposed a Black menthol smoker is less likely to die from a cop killing than he or she is from cancer.

This is probably true, though I suppose we can wonder together whether the menthol smokers are going to give up their habit altogether as a result of this regulation or this is just shuffling chairs on the Titanic. There are also liberty issues wrapped up in the nanny state "we're going to protect you from yourselves" but throwing in the racial element reeks of the worst kind of paternalism.

[B]

This will have an effect on smoking, but I can't imagine it's going to be significant. There are plenty of other policies they could have been headlining that would have a better impact and would feel a lot less nanny-ish.

[Bi_3]

[B]

Turns out, the menthol ban isn't just about telling black people what to do.

Menthol apparently gets people, especially kids, addicted much faster.

[Bi_3]

Not a great screen grab there by youtube, but John McWhorter is great.

[B]

North Carolina lawmakers could ban public schools from using lessons that advocate that the U.S. is racist or sexist or was created to oppress members of another race or sex.

https://www.heraldsun.com/news/politics ... 20603.html

Gang, I don't mind stating that the United States of America was NOT created to oppress members of another race or sex.

I would also say that "the US is racist or sexist" is a convenient mischaracterization of the general education on racial issues.

[B]

Not a great screen grab there by youtube, but John McWhorter is great.

So, I listened to that whole clip on the show (I podcast Real Time), and I've read White Fragility.

I really don't understand how he gets black victimhood out of that book. My take away from that book was that all black people don't act like John McWhorter, and when black people don't act like your idea of how black people should act, don't cry about it and treat them like shit. Just fucking deal with it. It's a book about white people playing the victim of a crime of some black people behaving in ways that some white people don't like.

He got the exact opposite lesson out of that book that I did.

[Bi_3]

Not a great screen grab there by youtube, but John McWhorter is great.

So, I listened to that whole clip on the show (I podcast Real Time), and I've read White Fragility.

I really don't understand how he gets black victimhood out of that book. My take away from that book was that all black people don't act like John McWhorter, and when black people don't act like your idea of how black people should act, don't cry about it and treat them like shit. Just fucking deal with it. It's a book about white people playing the victim of a crime of some black people behaving in ways that some white people don't like.

He got the exact opposite lesson out of that book that I did.

Here's his longer take from last year: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ty/614146/

[Bi_3]

We've moved on to approving the killing of elderly people. This explains the whole abolish the cops and jails thing.

The comments on that should scare the hell out of you

[Orpheus]

It's not like the dude isn't going to jail for manslaughter for a long time. It's unfortunate, but nothing to be terrified of. I feel like many things like this have happened in the past, we just didn't have Twitter.

Not really worth clutching your pearls over.

[B]

Y'know, I'm the most liberal person I know, and I find myself constantly having to resort to google to find the obscure, rare, and crazy liberal nuttiitness that you post like it's the official stance of the progressive movement.

No one's ever heard of Young Daddy, or gives a fuck what they tweet other than the fucked up people who support this on Twitter.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Orpheus]

Like this shit probably happened on the streets of NY or Boston ten times a night in the 70's, we just didn't have the internet.

[B]

No one's ever heard of Young Daddy, or gives a fuck what they tweet other than the fucked up people who support this on Twitter.

Toure is an extremely well-known journalist, TV host, and media personality.

Maybe among conservatives looking for boogieman.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Bi_3]

It's not like the dude isn't going to jail for manslaughter for a long time. It's unfortunate, but nothing to be terrified of. I feel like many things like this have happened in the past, we just didn't have Twitter.

Not really worth clutching your pearls over.

The reason it's scary is that it only takes one of the types of people celebrating this to be on the jury to set a precedent: killing a racist is not a crime.

[Orpheus]

Those people probably aren't going to make a jury.

[Bi_3]

Those people probably aren't going to make a jury.

Hopefully not, and I am not saying the guy wasnt provoked, it's just getting really close to normalizing physical violence as a form of anti-racism when people with broad social influence respond that way.

[verb_to_trust]

Isn't Chauvin going to possibly get a new trial because they fucked up the jury selection?