I mean like which of these two things is possible:
A leak from a lab in the immediate area of the first outbreak that was conducting that exact type of research (gain-of-function on ACE2) on that exact type of virus (SARS-like coronavirus)
or
A previously unknown and 18 months later still unidentified naturally occurring source smuggled into the same city as that lab from anywhere between hundreds to thousands of miles away and disbursed at a location that coincidentally happens to line up with exactly what the guy co-funding the above research theorized might someday happen and put into his NIH grant proposal five years earlier?
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The answer is both are possible and both must be investigated if the goal is to identify the source of COVID-19. But... you know... if I was a betting man...
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simple schoolboy wrote:Vox is going back and quietly editing the articles that refer to the lab leak as a conspiracy.
Or, just responsibly and transparently updating their work.
The time stamps seem to indicate that they posted their update after editing the articles.
Also, what has changed in the intervening year? Gatekeepers had a change of heart? Relevent specialists worked up the courage to go on the record? We don't have a ton of new information that shifted any probabilities.
simple schoolboy wrote:Vox is going back and quietly editing the articles that refer to the lab leak as a conspiracy.
Or, just responsibly and transparently updating their work.
The time stamps seem to indicate that they posted their update after editing the articles.
Also, what has changed in the intervening year? Gatekeepers had a change of heart? Relevent specialists worked up the courage to go on the record? We don't have a ton of new information that shifted any probabilities.
All you have to do is say something about the science changing. Science is a religion now. It's a faith based thing you don't question.
simple schoolboy wrote:
The time stamps seem to indicate that they posted their update after editing the articles.
Time moves in a forward direction? All things don't happen simultaneously??
Or did they read that RM poster, simple_schoolboy, was onto them and decided they better cover their tracks?
There's this standard in journalism where edits are noted in something near the header/footer of an article that is normally posted at the time of an edit.
Explainers apparently can just take to twitter hours later because they are doing the lords work.
So 9 hours with the time difference, maybe?
Your Vox tweet just takes you to a landing page of all covid explainers, so good luck figuring out just how Vox's understanding has changed in the past year.
I'll vote that. I don't even really care about the Wuhan Lab Theory. The timing of my twitter feed just seems to be tied into your posts on RM somehow.
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
I'll vote that. I don't even really care about the Wuhan Lab Theory. The timing of my twitter feed just seems to be tied into your posts on RM somehow.
BI3 is a very valuable member of N&D. Whether you agree or disagree it would be hard to argue that his opinions aren't well researched and thought out. A lot more so than most of us (myself included)
I'll vote that. I don't even really care about the Wuhan Lab Theory. The timing of my twitter feed just seems to be tied into your posts on RM somehow.
BI3 is a very valuable member of N&D. Whether you agree or disagree it would be hard to argue that his opinions aren't well researched and thought out. A lot more so than most of us (myself included)
I don't disagree with that.
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
I'll vote that. I don't even really care about the Wuhan Lab Theory. The timing of my twitter feed just seems to be tied into your posts on RM somehow.
BI3 is a very valuable member of N&D. Whether you agree or disagree it would be hard to argue that his opinions aren't well researched and thought out. A lot more so than most of us (myself included)
It's almost as if the liars that first mentioned the lab-leak theory weren't trusted by the broader population to be not-lying. How could this have happened?
