Bi_3 wrote:How’s that criminal justice reform working out so far?
Which of the reform laws that Maryland passed is preventing police from addressing public intoxication or illegal drug sales? All I’m familiar with is the bill that expanded public records access and body cam requirements, added no-knock warrant prerequisites, and changed the way police shootings are investigated.
It can’t be a result of defunding, either.
The Baltimore City Council approved a $4.3 billion spending plan Tuesday, leaving a $555 million allocation for the city's police department intact despite pleas from some members of the public to cut or eliminate spending on law enforcement.
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders.
Interesting. I hadn’t read anything about that. Violent crime declining 20% and property crime declining 35% seems like a positive, I guess, but I can see why storefront businesses might be frustrated by the results...especially as they try to recover economically from the quarantine era and lure shoppers back in.
McParadigm wrote:Interesting. I hadn’t read anything about that. Violent crime declining 20% and property crime declining 35% seems like a positive, I guess, but I can see why storefront businesses might be frustrated by the results...especially as they try to recover economically from the quarantine era and lure shoppers back in.
After a bit of further looking it appears the organizers of the complaint are related to the Sinclair Broadcast Group, so I am now a bit suspicious of it
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Why on earth would you get involved in something like this in such a jurisdiction? If you do, get the fuck out of there immediately and don't talk to the press. Chesa hates this guy for interfering in a rightful transfer of property.
simple schoolboy wrote:
Why on earth would you get involved in something like this in such a jurisdiction? If you do, get the fuck out of there immediately and don't talk to the press. Chesa hates this guy for interfering in a rightful transfer of property.
Some people believe in doing the right thing regardless of consequence
So when a place like New York City ends a policy like “stop and frisk” which results in fewer arrests for “crimes” (usually victimless crimes like possession of drugs), this is a bad thing? Do we need to be using all these resources and handing out criminal records in this way? I don’t see that as gaming the stats. The point of policing should be to protect and serve, not arrest every guy with a little baggie in his pocket. I don’t see how that helps anyone.
simple schoolboy wrote:
Why on earth would you get involved in something like this in such a jurisdiction? If you do, get the fuck out of there immediately and don't talk to the press. Chesa hates this guy for interfering in a rightful transfer of property.
Some people believe in doing the right thing regardless of consequence
verb_to_trust wrote:Crime stats do go down when cops stop arresting people, yes.
They stopped prosecuting attempted drug distribution, prostitution, trespassing, open containers and minor traffic offenses. They didn’t stop prosecuting violent crime or property crimes.
verb_to_trust wrote:Crime stats do go down when cops stop arresting people, yes.
They stopped prosecuting attempted drug distribution, prostitution, trespassing, open containers and minor traffic offenses. They didn’t stop prosecuting violent crime or property crimes.
verb_to_trust wrote:Crime stats do go down when cops stop arresting people, yes.
They stopped prosecuting attempted drug distribution, prostitution, trespassing, open containers and minor traffic offenses. They didn’t stop prosecuting violent crime or property crimes.
You're so close
Very useful response.
Anyways, I came across an expanded summary of the figures in a WaPo article:
While violent crime and homicides skyrocketed in most other big American cities last year, violent crime in Baltimore dropped 20 percent from last March to this month, property crime decreased 36 percent, and there were 13 fewer homicides compared with the previous year. This happened while 39 percent fewer people entered the city’s criminal justice system in the one-year period.
It didn’t mention property crimes in other cities, a bit of searching shows that they were up in most places during the same time frame….ranging from a 1% increase in Seattle to an 11% increase in Lubbock.
verb_to_trust wrote:Crime stats do go down when cops stop arresting people, yes.
They stopped prosecuting attempted drug distribution, prostitution, trespassing, open containers and minor traffic offenses. They didn’t stop prosecuting violent crime or property crimes.
You're so close
Very useful response.
Anyways, I came across an expanded summary of the figures in a WaPo article:
While violent crime and homicides skyrocketed in most other big American cities last year, violent crime in Baltimore dropped 20 percent from last March to this month, property crime decreased 36 percent, and there were 13 fewer homicides compared with the previous year. This happened while 39 percent fewer people entered the city’s criminal justice system in the one-year period.
It didn’t mention property crimes in other cities, a bit of searching shows that they were up in most places during the same time frame….ranging from a 1% increase in Seattle to an 11% increase in Lubbock.
The U.S. has two major data collection programs: the Uniform Crime Reports from the FBI and the National Crime Victimization Survey from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. You’ll have to ask them.
Speaking of the FBI report, an aside: one reason that increases in crime are usually framed as happening “in cities” is because larger metros have the infrastructure and personnel to collect and report these figures, while the FBI has to collate data from most smaller communities on its own. The report that incorporates the collated data usually arrives some months after the metros report, by which time the conversation is over.
Which is why we talk about homicides being up in big cities in 2020, even though communities with fewer than 10,000 residents saw more than a 30 percent increase in killings as well.
I'm going to parse out some annotated circle jerky response.....oh wait, nevermind, it's Saturday, the euros are on, and I'm going outside to get some yard work done.
