The Environment Thread

Engage in discussions about news, politics, etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 2:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 2:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

Biden administration suspends oil and gas leases in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

Interior Secretary Deb Haaland orders new environmental review of the leasing program, saying the Trump administration did an ‘insufficient analysis’ of drilling’s impact
Image
A polar bear and her young stand along the Beaufort Sea coast in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in 2007. (Susanne Miller/USFWS/Reuters)

By 

Juliet Eilperin and Joshua Partlow
 

June 1, 2021 at 12:46 p.m. MDT

The Biden administration Tuesday suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, overturning one of President Donald Trump’s most significant environmental acts during his last days in office.

The move by the Interior Department, which could spark a major legal battle, aims to unwind nearly a dozen leases in the heart of a pristine expanse in Alaska that Republicans and Democrats have fought over for four decades. The Trump administration auctioned off the right to drill in the refuge’s coastal plain — home to hundreds of thousands of migrating caribou and waterfowl as well as the southern Beaufort Sea’s remaining polar bears — just two weeks before President Biden was inaugurated.
"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by simple schoolboy »

User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Green Habit »

Lingering opposition to nuclear power is going to be one of the biggest failures in the battle to get rid of fossil fuels ASAP.
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 2:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by simple schoolboy »

Green Habit wrote:Lingering opposition to nuclear power is going to be one of the biggest failures in the battle to get rid of fossil fuels ASAP.
Does anyone really believe that grid scale energy storage is just around the corner or are they just okay with weather induced blackouts?
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Green Habit »

simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Lingering opposition to nuclear power is going to be one of the biggest failures in the battle to get rid of fossil fuels ASAP.
Does anyone really believe that grid scale energy storage is just around the corner or are they just okay with weather induced blackouts?
I think it can be a small part of the solution, but not the majority or whole solution. Just like I feel like about all other clean energy techniques. If we're serious about eliminating fossil fuels (and we should be!) we need every tool available, which is why I get angry when people try to take away the nuclear tool.
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by simple schoolboy »

Green Habit wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Lingering opposition to nuclear power is going to be one of the biggest failures in the battle to get rid of fossil fuels ASAP.
Does anyone really believe that grid scale energy storage is just around the corner or are they just okay with weather induced blackouts?
I think it can be a small part of the solution, but not the majority or whole solution. Just like I feel like about all other clean energy techniques. If we're serious about eliminating fossil fuels (and we should be!) we need every tool available, which is why I get angry when people try to take away the nuclear tool.

Which is why we are fucked. I see far too many exclamations of renewables plus storage, and far too few examples of storage. Mandating house level solar + storage is the only thing that seems to be feasible at the moment, which is only viable in certain regions. Unfortunately, those regions don't have the water needed to support moving everyone else over.

California solar installers are pissed that the regulators are trying to decrease compensation for residential solar. The problem is we're pretty much maxed out on solar. Peak solar output and peak demand do not align. Maybe if you get a giant capacitor bank and correct that several hour gap we can align those interests.

California will continue to pay neighboring entities to take excess solar power and turn around to buy natural gas or coal powered energy a few hours after. Its embarassing that the French largely got this right and we don't. (Think of all the great nuclear union jobs).
User avatar
96583UP
The Master
Posts: 29574
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by 96583UP »

maybe carbon capture sites once erupting can double as geothermal
All posts by this account, even those referencing real things, are entirely fictional and are for entertainment purposes only; i.e. very low-quality entertainment. These may contain coarse language and due to their content should not be viewed by anyone
User avatar
McParadigm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 22393
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by McParadigm »

Sign of the times
(patriotic choking noises)
doug rr
The Master
Posts: 27320
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:45 pm
Location: I'm now Canadian..go broncos

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by doug rr »

and here i sit 90 miles west of palm springs and its fog and 60s..just crazy
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Green Habit »

doug rr wrote:and here i sit 90 miles west of palm springs and its fog and 60s..just crazy
The US Open has been telling the world all about that fog in somewhat nearby San Diego.
User avatar
wease
Major Dude
Posts: 40175
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 1:57 pm
Location: Where everybody knows your name

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by wease »

Death Valley is where the Army sent my grandpa to train back in WWII. He said it was in the 120s every day he was there.
Let me tell you, Homer Simpson is cock of nothing!
- C. Montgomery Burns
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

As someone who's is currently a part of the heat dome and does not have A.C. I can verify that this sucks.

This is the new norm.

Extreme temperatures in the Pacific Northwest
"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 2:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Bi_3 »

Thermostat of Love and Trust
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
User avatar
Stickman
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 10264
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Stickman »

Further to the heat dome in the PNW and western Canada.
Not sayin all are heat relayed, but there is correlation

B.C. records 486 sudden deaths, almost triple the usual number, during heat wave
"I'll hold your wallet while you go fuck yourself"-David Letterman
User avatar
Bi_3
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 16452
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Re: The Environment Thread

Post by Bi_3 »

Stickman wrote:Further to the heat dome in the PNW and western Canada.
Not sayin all are heat relayed, but there is correlation

B.C. records 486 sudden deaths, almost triple the usual number, during heat wave
Or as Trudeau calls them “Covid related deaths”
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post Reply