Anybody want a Corona?

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[McParadigm]

A Butler County judge ruled in favor of a woman last week who sought to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin — an animal dewormer that federal regulators have warned against using in COVID-19 patients — to her husband after several weeks in the ICU with the disease.

Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital, part of the University of Cincinnati network, to treat Jeffrey Smith, 51, with Ivermectin. The order, filed Aug. 23, compels the hospital to provide Smith with 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks.

The drug was originally developed to deworm livestock animals before doctors began using it against parasitic diseases among humans. Several researchers won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for establishing its efficacy in humans. It’s used to treat head lice, onchocerciasis (river blindness) and others.

Julie Smith found Ivermectin on her own and connected with Dr. Fred Wagshul, an Ohio physician who her lawsuit identifies as “one of the foremost experts on using Ivermectin in treating COVID-19.” He prescribed the drug, and the hospital refused to administer it.

A hospital spokeswoman said she can’t comment on litigation and federal patient privacy laws prevent her from commenting on any specifics of patient care.

Smith is represented by New York attorney Ralph Lorigo, the chairman of New York’s Erie County Conservative Party, who has successfully filed one similar case against a Chicago area hospital and two more in Buffalo. He did not respond to an email or phone call.

[dad]

lol we're so fucking stupid.

[Bammer]

Quarter (S)mile

Turns out this isn’t a bad horse racing pun, it’s a bad drag racing pun. Wow.

[Peeps]

Quarter (S)mile

Turns out this isn’t a bad horse racing pun, it’s a bad drag racing pun. Wow.

The absolute worse at this

[Bammer]

Quarter (S)mile

Turns out this isn’t a bad horse racing pun, it’s a bad drag racing pun. Wow.

The absolute worse at this

*wurst

[Biff Pocoroba]

A high school friend, a big Trumper and anti vax/mask guy, is on a ventilator with double pneumonia thanks to covid.
I kept wondering when something like this would happen to someone I knew personally.

[surfndestroy]

Are vaccine passports that don't include previous Covid infection effective or ethical given the data coming out of Isreal?
"The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label.

[url]ttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties[/url]

When the wrong questions are being asked you will never get the correct answers.

Interesting question. At the end of the day, vaccine passports are mostly about encouraging vaccination - rewarding a member of society for making the responsible choice to help bring an end to the pandemic. So in the context of the greater good, it seems ethical enough?

At the end of the day vaccine passports are about using state sponsored coercion and social exclusion that includes requiring some people (those who have had Covid) to take on a risk (as minimal as it is) for a performative act and not one that makes anyone safer.
I know we will not agree here but think how this idea of state sponsored coercion and social exclusion, where there is no benefit offered to anyone, will be enacted if we ever get serious about climate change.
I actually think there is a place for state sponsored coercion, and it is used all the time. The social exclusion aspect of these vaccine passport mandates should worry everyone.

[Bi_3]

Are vaccine passports that don't include previous Covid infection effective or ethical given the data coming out of Isreal?
"The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label.

[url]ttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties[/url]

When the wrong questions are being asked you will never get the correct answers.

Interesting question. At the end of the day, vaccine passports are mostly about encouraging vaccination - rewarding a member of society for making the responsible choice to help bring an end to the pandemic. So in the context of the greater good, it seems ethical enough?

At the end of the day vaccine passports are about using state sponsored coercion and social exclusion that includes requiring some people (those who have had Covid) to take on a risk (as minimal as it is) for a performative act and not one that makes anyone safer.
I know we will not agree here but think how this idea of state sponsored coercion and social exclusion, where there is no benefit offered to anyone, will be enacted if we ever get serious about climate change.
I actually think there is a place for state sponsored coercion, and it is used all the time. The social exclusion aspect of these vaccine passport mandates should worry everyone.

In principle I agree that state coercion should be avoided and the fear of instilling conditioned obedience, though we are in the minority here on that topic, but where do you believe that line is between "recommendation" and "requirement" in a global public health crisis?

[Bammer]

Oh I see we’re back to being coronavirus experts again. Cool.

[surfndestroy]

Oh I see we’re back to being coronavirus experts again. Cool.

So sue us for getting off track.

[B]

Oh I see we’re back to being coronavirus experts again. Cool.

Mind Your Bammers.

[dad]

Oh I see we’re back to being coronavirus experts again. Cool.

[spike]

A Butler County judge ruled in favor of a woman last week who sought to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin — an animal dewormer that federal regulators have warned against using in COVID-19 patients — to her husband after several weeks in the ICU with the disease.

Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital, part of the University of Cincinnati network, to treat Jeffrey Smith, 51, with Ivermectin. The order, filed Aug. 23, compels the hospital to provide Smith with 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks.

The drug was originally developed to deworm livestock animals before doctors began using it against parasitic diseases among humans. Several researchers won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for establishing its efficacy in humans. It’s used to treat head lice, onchocerciasis (river blindness) and others.

Julie Smith found Ivermectin on her own and connected with Dr. Fred Wagshul, an Ohio physician who her lawsuit identifies as “one of the foremost experts on using Ivermectin in treating COVID-19.” He prescribed the drug, and the hospital refused to administer it.

A hospital spokeswoman said she can’t comment on litigation and federal patient privacy laws prevent her from commenting on any specifics of patient care.

Smith is represented by New York attorney Ralph Lorigo, the chairman of New York’s Erie County Conservative Party, who has successfully filed one similar case against a Chicago area hospital and two more in Buffalo. He did not respond to an email or phone call.

Dammit McP, we’d nearly punned to death this godforsaken thread.

[Bammer]

A Butler County judge ruled in favor of a woman last week who sought to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin — an animal dewormer that federal regulators have warned against using in COVID-19 patients — to her husband after several weeks in the ICU with the disease.

Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital, part of the University of Cincinnati network, to treat Jeffrey Smith, 51, with Ivermectin. The order, filed Aug. 23, compels the hospital to provide Smith with 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks.

The drug was originally developed to deworm livestock animals before doctors began using it against parasitic diseases among humans. Several researchers won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for establishing its efficacy in humans. It’s used to treat head lice, onchocerciasis (river blindness) and others.

Julie Smith found Ivermectin on her own and connected with Dr. Fred Wagshul, an Ohio physician who her lawsuit identifies as “one of the foremost experts on using Ivermectin in treating COVID-19.” He prescribed the drug, and the hospital refused to administer it.

A hospital spokeswoman said she can’t comment on litigation and federal patient privacy laws prevent her from commenting on any specifics of patient care.

Smith is represented by New York attorney Ralph Lorigo, the chairman of New York’s Erie County Conservative Party, who has successfully filed one similar case against a Chicago area hospital and two more in Buffalo. He did not respond to an email or phone call.

Dammit McP, we’d nearly punned to death this godforsaken thread.

Other Tried

[Bammer]

Gave it a Go

[Bammer]

Present Attempts

[doug rr]

springsteens daughter

[Bi_3]

springsteens daughter

That doesnt rhyme at all.

[wease]

A Butler County judge ruled in favor of a woman last week who sought to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin — an animal dewormer that federal regulators have warned against using in COVID-19 patients — to her husband after several weeks in the ICU with the disease.

Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard ordered West Chester Hospital, part of the University of Cincinnati network, to treat Jeffrey Smith, 51, with Ivermectin. The order, filed Aug. 23, compels the hospital to provide Smith with 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks.

The drug was originally developed to deworm livestock animals before doctors began using it against parasitic diseases among humans. Several researchers won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for establishing its efficacy in humans. It’s used to treat head lice, onchocerciasis (river blindness) and others.

Julie Smith found Ivermectin on her own and connected with Dr. Fred Wagshul, an Ohio physician who her lawsuit identifies as “one of the foremost experts on using Ivermectin in treating COVID-19.” He prescribed the drug, and the hospital refused to administer it.

A hospital spokeswoman said she can’t comment on litigation and federal patient privacy laws prevent her from commenting on any specifics of patient care.

Smith is represented by New York attorney Ralph Lorigo, the chairman of New York’s Erie County Conservative Party, who has successfully filed one similar case against a Chicago area hospital and two more in Buffalo. He did not respond to an email or phone call.

So who will she sue when the fucker dies?