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i remember when the song came out being singled out as a song about a story he had with an older producer. Thats why i thought it was Ballard´s story.
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Interesting. I know that song but never thought about the lyrics very deeply. It has a cheery melody, I would've never guessed it was about something so dark
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VinylGuy wrote:i remember when the song came out being singled out as a song about a story he had with an older producer. Thats why i thought it was Ballard´s story.
Oh sure. I can see that. Totally makes sense. I think the "supposed crime" stuff along with the age references made me think it pre-dated Ballard. And, again, I've always heard her speak highly of him. But I totally see where you made that connection.
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VinylGuy wrote:I thought Hands Clean was about Glen Ballard not about multiple men raping her when she was 15.
Wtf. That's messed up.
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im so fucking in for this doc
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Im not a fan, and im sure ill be entertained with the doc. Shame that she doesnt like it, i guess she is upset with how they are showing that rape stuff maybe?

About the Bourdain doc, i liked it enough for what it is. I think its shows a respectable image of him.
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if Alanis doesn't like or support this doc I won't be watching it
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The whole thing feels complex and layered and I'm still processing what to think/how to feel about it.
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r you watching it?
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It's messy. It's Alanis's story, but she's also the subject of someone else's artistic work. Hard to know how to feel about it before watching it.
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Also, it seems she doesnt like how they are showing not only the rape thing but her relationship with his band back in the day.
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I’m just gonna watch Wayne’s World again instead
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Bammer wrote:I’m just gonna watch Wayne’s World again instead
Its cancelled.
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VinylGuy wrote:
Bammer wrote:I’m just gonna watch Wayne’s World again instead
Its cancelled.
Got it on DVD, baby!
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I watched Wayne's World again a while back (it's my favourite comedy ever) expecting it to be super problematic and hurtful (I'm looking at you, Ace Ventura), but it was still surprisingly good and wholesome
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do you guys feel bad for comedies you loved and these days might be "problematic"?
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