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epilogue wrote:The illusion of the culture war
Really? Are you OK with "retard" or not? How about "fag" or jokes about how women should be in the kitchen?
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epilogue wrote:The illusion of the culture war
Really? Are you OK with "retard" or not? How about "fag" or jokes about how women should be in the kitchen?
Depends on context
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That was the point I tried making when I was almost banned for using "r" word appropriately here before... I'd bet it'd even be argued that using it in a joke is worse
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You'll never get through to the phonies, Tree. Probably best to drop it.
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trag, are you saying that if it were actually funny when I said "r" word, it's more PC and wouldn't get me into trouble?
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A great man is dead, Tree! This is no time for your antics!
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tree_ wrote:
epilogue wrote:The illusion of the culture war
Really? Are you OK with "retard" or not? How about "fag" or jokes about how women should be in the kitchen?
There is nuance and context to all things. Fabricating outrage to distract and divide is absurd. The culture war isn't real, it's a political fabrication.

But to answer your question, no. I'm not okay using those words, which is why I don't use them. More importantly, the groups disparaged by those words don't appreciate their use and I respect that. Having said that, I'm not gonna tell you I've never laughed at a well crafted joke that uses those words. A former co-worker of mine is gay and hates the "f" word. It repulses him. But he always laughs at that scene in The Hangover. He finds it really funny and openly says so.

Again, nuance and context. Like George Carlin said, anything can be funny, it all depends on the exaggeration. I'm sure Norm told a lot of jokes that I wouldn't have laughed at or that may have rubbed me the wrong way or made me cringe. But he also told a lot of jokes that I adore, and made me happy, or made me think. He was a master of his craft. His career and contribution to the art form deserve to be celebrated; his passing mourned.

My respect and admiration for him is not hypocritical. I can love Norm and hate the "f" word at the same time.
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tree gonna tree
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Imagine if the hill you wanted to die on was 4th-grade playground comedy.
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Thanks joe. I honestly get very confused how white knight PC people can seem to pick and choose but that does clarify your position for me
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Simple Torture wrote:Imagine if the hill you wanted to die on was 4th-grade playground comedy.
I’m not trying to die on any hill. But I did almost get executed on one a few times at this message board
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tree_ wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Imagine if the hill you wanted to die on was 4th-grade playground comedy.
I’m not trying to die on any hill. But I did almost get executed on one a few times at this message board
Perhaps next time the headsman will be a bit quicker.
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Tree really has a knack for hijacking just about any conversation with his idiocy
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That was pretty funny.
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BurtReynolds wrote: That was pretty funny.
i just watched that clip. gotta respect a guy who went out of his way to not roast one of his heroes.
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epilogue wrote:
tree_ wrote:
epilogue wrote:The illusion of the culture war
Really? Are you OK with "retard" or not? How about "fag" or jokes about how women should be in the kitchen?
There is nuance and context to all things. Fabricating outrage to distract and divide is absurd. The culture war isn't real, it's a political fabrication.

But to answer your question, no. I'm not okay using those words, which is why I don't use them. More importantly, the groups disparaged by those words don't appreciate their use and I respect that. Having said that, I'm not gonna tell you I've never laughed a well crafted joke that uses those words. A former co-worker of mine is gay and hates the "f" word. It repulses him. But he always laughs at that scene in The Hangover. He finds it really funny and openly says so.

Again, nuance and context. Like George Carlin said, anything can be funny, it all depends on the exaggeration. I'm sure Norm told a lot of jokes that I wouldn't have laughed at or that may have rubbed me the wrong way or made me cringe. But he also told a lot of jokes that I adore, and made me happy, or made me think. He was a master of his craft. His career and contribution to the artform deserve to celebrated; his passing mourned.

My respect and admiration for him is not hypocritical. I can love Norm and hate the "f" word at the same time.
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Strat wrote:Tree really has a knack for hijacking just about any conversation with his idiocy
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dad wrote:that face is so so good.

I’m going to have to show this to my son one day
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