Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

[Ello Sailor]

Yeah, its ok.

See, that's the exact opposite of what I said.

You got super emotional sorry. For me its an ok song. Not even a top 20 with this band.

It's good to know when people are dead to you.

[Kevin Davis]

who was drumming with them at that moment? Matt Walker?

Jimmy Flemion from the Frogs was on keyboards, stepping in for Melvoin after he OD'ed.

It was Dennis on keyboards. Jimmy was a crew member and would pick dancers for "1979".

My bad! I totally remember the "1979" dancers, and remember Jimmy (in what I seem to recall were large bat or dragon wings) being called out by name by Billy right before that song, which is probably why the confusion.

[surfndestroy]

Having a great Friday. Adore deluxe playing. Billy has some great acoustic songs.

The Sadland demos are so good.
'Christmastime' is great.
'The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete', damn that is a song everyone should know.

The CRC demos are pretty solid as well.
'Do You Close Your Eyes When You Kiss Me?' is a really nice song that has a nice sway.

[VinylGuy]

Don't try to use 'Wound' to get out of this, Veg.

I prefer Wound to SIYL

[Ello Sailor]

'Christmastime' is great.

This song could've been a hit if it wasn't a fucking Christmas throwaway. Beautiful composition.

[Ello Sailor]

Don't try to use 'Wound' to get out of this, Veg.

I prefer Wound to SIYL

See, that's fine. But SIYL is several lightyears beyond "ok".

[Ello Sailor]

So mad at Veggie right now.

[VinylGuy]

Can we agree with Untitled being great? Thats a song from the Machina sessions right?

[surfndestroy]

The Pumpkins have done a really masterful job with their deluxe re-issues. Some choices can be nitpicked but they are really well thought out and give some insight into just how good and proficient Billy was. Fingers crossed we get the Machina set soon.

Metallica does a pretty good job as well.

[Ello Sailor]

Can we agree with Untitled being great? Thats a song from the Machina sessions right?

Not just from the sessions -- wasn't it the final track?

[VinylGuy]

no, it was released on Rotten Apples, the greatest hits released after Machina.

Also, i remember RA had a 2nd cd that didnt happened but the single cd had a sticker that said it was a double album. It was super confusing.

[Ello Sailor]

'Wound' is so beautiful. It's actually unbelievable how good that song is.

[Ello Sailor]

no, it was released on Rotten Apples, the greatest hits released after Machina.

Also, i remember RA had a 2nd cd that didnt happened but the single cd had a sticker that said it was a double album. It was super confusing.

Bruh, I know where it was released. I'm pretty sure it was the final song put to tape by 88-00 Pumpkins, though.

[liebzz]

I don’t think I will get to the rest pre-Sea.Hear.Now but I will pick this all back up when I get back.

[surfndestroy]

I don’t think I will get to the rest pre-Sea.Hear.Now but I will pick this all back up when I get back.

Enjoy and thanks for these. Interested in hearing what you think of the remainder of the SP catalogue. I'm a big fan of Oceania and think highly of Shiny....

[VinylGuy]

yeah, you have an interest road ahead....

Big fan of Zeitgeist, like a lot Shiny and have mixed feeling about Cyr ( i need to listen to it again).

Teargarden is a mixed bag, sounds awful but the songs are good. Oceania is weird...i kinda liked it back in the day...nowadays its pretty awful for me.
Monuments...hated it when it came out, and kind liked it with time.

Oh! guys should be listen to the American Gothic EP?

[AndySlash]

so a top 5 of mellon collie/aeroplane era songs? this thread did prompt me to listen to the whole aeroplane set the other day so those songs are fresh in my mind. i could probably just name the thirty-three single and get away with that as a top 5 (6, i guess), that disc is so good. nice to see to forgive mentioned, that has always been a favorite. set the ray to jerry would be on there. so...

aeroplane
set the ray
to forgive
thirty-three
muzzle... maybe. i dunno, i could probably pick 3-4.

i guess i like the quieter stuff.

[Birds in Hell]

Though I said earlier I don't really return to post-Pisces SP, there is one notable exception to that: Raindrops + Sunshowers on Machina.

That one's easily hovering around my top 10 SP songs.

[Birds in Hell]

no, it was released on Rotten Apples, the greatest hits released after Machina.

Also, i remember RA had a 2nd cd that didnt happened but the single cd had a sticker that said it was a double album. It was super confusing.

Pretty certain I have the 2CD version of Rotten Apples.

[Birds in Hell]

so a top 5 of mellon collie/aeroplane era songs?

Love
Fuck You
Bodies
To Forgive
Pennies