Anybody want a Corona?

[spike]

500 pounds

[verb_to_trust]

500 pounds

I'm being serious

[Rangi Guy]

I think I've lost about 3kg

[verb_to_trust]

I think I've lost about 3kg

Do you know how much spike has gained though?

[Rangi Guy]

I think I've lost about 3kg

Do you know how much spike has gained though?

I may have given it to him

[LetMeSleep]

I think I've lost about 3kg

Do you know how much spike has gained though?

I may have given it to him

Oh sexy.

[Peeps]

[Bi_3]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

[Peeps]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

[Bi_3]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

[Rob]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

No, but they are comparable in a practical sense.

[4/5]

That eviction moratorium was blatantly unconstitutional and for about a year now a horrendous policy. I guess it's tough to foment too much rage on behalf of landlords, but man.

I don't know about unconstitutional, but even under a Chevron deference regime I really don't understand how the statutory law gives the White House this power.

So isn't that unconstitutional? My argument is that the CDC has no such power (even in the beginning when the policy was justifiable for a few months) to issue a moratorium on evictions. Not only does the CDC have no such power, but neither does any person or institution in the executive branch. Only Congress could conceivably have that power, and even that would likely require a looser interpretation of the commerce clause than I'm comfortable with.

Well, if you're arguing that the laws that created the CDC, et al didn't give the executive branch that power, then that would be a statutory issue, not a constitutional one. Hypothetically, it would be corrected by Congress passing a law amending whichever executive department it chooses to explicitly allow it to ban evictions during pandemics.

But if you're going to make constitutional arguments, pandemics quite obviously transmit on an interstate basis, thus I find it really difficult to see how the Commerce Clause could be a limiting factor there. The best I can think of is some sort of Takings Clause argument where the government would have to pay landlords in exchange for forcing them to keep tenants on their property, and I'm tenuous on that thought.

Oh nice, I think we fundamentally disagree on this one.

Obviously you're right that a virus crosses state lines, and so therefore the existence of the CDC can be justified on commerce grounds. I guess the question becomes, where is the line? This is a regulation (not a law) that deprives a property owner from being able to collect rent from their tenants. I'm not prepared to go all the way down this road but that really feels like it violates property rights and more clearly the right to contract. I find it unlikely (IMO) that Congress has the power to do this and I feel very strongly that a bureaucratic agency certainly doesn't.

[B]

"Medical Apartheid"

[Bi_3]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

No, but they are comparable in a practical sense.

Fair enough, "practical" was poor word choice. But the comparison between an attenuated virus vaccine that provides decades of protection developed over (arguably) a century for a somewhat static disease with a >35% fatality rate which is spread via contact and is rarely asymptomatic vs. mRNA vaccines made from the floor up in under 6 months for an airborne disease with around a 1% fatality rate the can change rapidly to avoid the waning vaccine is a pretty weak samesies.

[Peeps]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

No, but they are comparable in a practical sense.

Fair enough, "practical" was poor word choice. But the comparison between an attenuated virus vaccine that provides decades of protection developed over (arguably) a century for a somewhat static disease with a >35% fatality rate which is spread via contact and is rarely asymptomatic vs. mRNA vaccines made from the floor up in under 6 months for an airborne disease with around a 1% fatality rate the can change rapidly to avoid the waning vaccine is a pretty weak samesies.

actually it wasnt 6 months

researchers began working on a vaccine after the diseases SARS and MERS were discovered in 203 and 2012 link here

[Bi_3]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

No, but they are comparable in a practical sense.

Fair enough, "practical" was poor word choice. But the comparison between an attenuated virus vaccine that provides decades of protection developed over (arguably) a century for a somewhat static disease with a >35% fatality rate which is spread via contact and is rarely asymptomatic vs. mRNA vaccines made from the floor up in under 6 months for an airborne disease with around a 1% fatality rate the can change rapidly to avoid the waning vaccine is a pretty weak samesies.

actually it wasnt 6 months

researchers began working on a vaccine after the diseases SARS and MERS were discovered in 203 and 2012 link here

That's pretty misleading, even by federal government standards.

https://jbiomedsci.biomedcentral.com/ar ... 20-00695-2

RNA vaccine

Although there were no RNA vaccine studies for SARS-CoV or MERS-CoV in the past two decades, there have already been 6 novel RNA vaccines reaching clinical trials for SARS-CoV-2 since the outbreak of COVID-19

[verb_to_trust]

Smallpox and Covid-19 are not the same thing. The smallpox vaccine and the Covid-19 vaccine are not comparable in any practical sense.

except they are both vaccines that were used to help lessen symptoms

may want to re-read the last three of the four paragraphs

Cricket and baseball are the same.

Apply new trends in gender identification to vaccine classification. Fixed!

[Bi_3]

FDA: Ok (for) Boomer

[verb_to_trust]

Attention: we can control microscopic events as long as we science right

[Rob]

Attention: we can control microscopic events as long as we science right

Yea man. I think you finally got there. It’s a process, but over time it’s why you’ll probably live to 85 rather than 45.