how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Engage in discussions about news, politics, etc.

how best to determine who gets to live in the most desirable places?

wealth/markets
4
29%
ancestry/inheritance
2
14%
lottery
1
7%
strength and cunning
4
29%
no one gets to live there in the interests of fairness
3
21%
 
Total votes: 14

User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45824
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by BurtReynolds »

washing machine wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I just wish it could create some art and architecture that wasn't a soulless blight on the landscape.
You should visit Bentonville, Arkansas
Facebook has been sending me ads calling southwest Arkansas "the new Austin".

I have my doubts.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
washing machine
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 15666
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm
Location: Space City

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by washing machine »

BurtReynolds wrote:
washing machine wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I just wish it could create some art and architecture that wasn't a soulless blight on the landscape.
You should visit Bentonville, Arkansas
Facebook has been sending me ads calling southwest Arkansas "the new Austin".

I have my doubts.
lol
dimejinky99 wrote:I could destroy any ai chatbot you put in front of me. Easily.
User avatar
Bammer
mXn
Posts: 22777
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am
Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Bammer »

I voted ancestry (based on geography).

I grew up here, I like it, my friends are here, I stay.

If I was from Iowa or something, for all I know I’d have stayed there.
(she/him/theirs)
simple schoolboy
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5934
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by simple schoolboy »

I thought we already decided that the following groups get to live in the best spots:

People who make > $200K/ yr
People with crippling methamphetamine/ opiod addictions
People with severe untreated mental illnesses
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45824
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by BurtReynolds »

Often the same people!
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
Rob
Future Drummer
Posts: 2887
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am
Location: Connecticut

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Rob »

BurtReynolds wrote:As a newly minted member of the gentry, I'm cool with gentrification and letting the market decide. I just wish it could create some art and architecture that wasn't a soulless blight on the landscape.
Ha, Trag could’ve just said gentrification and save a lot time typing.

There should be some kind of meritocracy, but do I deserve to live in a 4 bedroom house in a nice suburb while others who work harder are poor? Probably not. So maybe think about merit more, knowing it’ll never be perfect.
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 3:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Rob
Future Drummer
Posts: 2887
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am
Location: Connecticut

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Rob »

I don’t think you’re wrong. You just explained the process without using the term. It’s funny.
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45824
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by BurtReynolds »

I don't think it's strictly racial. The area I live in is very different than it was when I first came here 20 years ago. It was pretty bohemian back then. Now it's young professionals and upscale apartments. The weird (mostly white) crowd can't afford to live here anymore.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
lennytheweedwhacker
The Master
Posts: 47946
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by lennytheweedwhacker »

i vote for banks
And they say that a hero could save us
I'm not gonna stand here and wait
User avatar
spike
The Master
Posts: 35444
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by spike »

burt show us your vision board
User avatar
lennytheweedwhacker
The Master
Posts: 47946
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by lennytheweedwhacker »

will burt die in a trailer park or ruddo's garage?
And they say that a hero could save us
I'm not gonna stand here and wait
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45824
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by BurtReynolds »

I don't plan on dying rich.
RM's resident disinformation expert.
User avatar
McParadigm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 22393
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by McParadigm »

wow good luck with that
(patriotic choking noises)
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Green Habit »

tragabigzanda wrote:Let the markets decide. The "undesirable" places descend into crime and vacancy, then they become more affordable, then people move there and reinvigorate the economy and culture. See Spokane, Detroit, Galveston, St Louis, Lowell...
This, but in order to fully get there, cities need to change their zoning laws to allow for the markets to build what people need. This applies to both "desirable" cities, and can also apply to "undesirable" ones if the "desirable" cities refuse to change.
tragabigzanda wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:As a newly minted member of the gentry, I'm cool with gentrification and letting the market decide. I just wish it could create some art and architecture that wasn't a soulless blight on the landscape.
I think the art can happen, but not really the architecture. That shit is expensive.
Once again, this. All of the boxy midrises exhaust me, too, but if you want more affordable housing, prettier facades get in that way.
tragabigzanda wrote:Honest question, doesn’t gentrification only occur along ethnic/racial lines? Which wouldn’t be the case in some of those places. But if I’m wrong I’ll wrong.
I agree with Burt in that it isn't strictly racial, even if it often falls down those lines. One major example I can think of are trailer parks, whose residents often get screwed by rising housing costs when they own the structure but not the land--so they get booted out when the landowner wants to develop to the new highest & best use, while having to figure out where the hell they're going to put their trailer.

The root cause of gentrification, though, is when the more high valued parts of the city are zoned too sparsely. Without upzoning in those areas, often because old money raises hell in person at council and P&Z meetings, the new money that wants to move there buys up property in the lower valued areas, raising prices there and thus pricing out the incumbent residents.
User avatar
Bammer
mXn
Posts: 22777
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am
Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Bammer »

What does someone like me, with old AND new money, do?
(she/him/theirs)
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 3:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
tragabigzanda
Production Police
Posts: 51634
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by tragabigzanda »

FUCK ICE
Last edited by tragabigzanda on Thu January 15, 2026 3:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Bammer
mXn
Posts: 22777
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am
Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by Bammer »

tragabigzanda wrote:
Bammer wrote:What does someone like me, with old AND new money, do?
Try having twins again?
In an up-and-coming part of the city :thumbsup:
(she/him/theirs)
User avatar
BurtReynolds
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Posts: 45824
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.

Re: how do we determine who gets to live in the best places?

Post by BurtReynolds »

Strength and cunning is running neck and neck with the tycoons!

Image

Image
RM's resident disinformation expert.
Post Reply