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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Joe, what you wrote makes sense. I guess I'm more of a cerebral viewer of films. You must've hated 2001: Space Odyssey? Am I correct there?
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Oh heavens no! That's one of the all-time favorite films. Like top 5 all time. I adore 2001. But it's lyrical and literary and gorgeous and thrilling and tense. It's less a film to me and more of a visual opera or symphony. I feel every frame of that movie, which is amazing since so much of it is sterile and cold and, you know, open space. A true, literal, artistic achievement.tree_ wrote:Joe, what you wrote makes sense. I guess I'm more of a cerebral viewer of films. You must've hated 2001: Space Odyssey? Am I correct there?
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but what about your heart.. surely it didn't tug on stringsepilogue wrote:Oh heavens no! That's one of the all-time favorite films. Like top 5 all time. I adore 2001. But it's lyrical and literary and gorgeous and thrilling and tense. It's less a film to me and more of a visual opera. I feel every frame of that movie, which is amazing since so much of it is sterile and cold and, you know, open space. A true, literal, artistic achievement.tree_ wrote:Joe, what you wrote makes sense. I guess I'm more of a cerebral viewer of films. You must've hated 2001: Space Odyssey? Am I correct there?
Man, if you love that movie I don't understand how you can't love Phantom Thread. This whole thing has me flustered. I'm going to go get a sandwich.
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Enjoy your sandwichtree_ wrote:but what about your heart.. surely it didn't tug on stringsepilogue wrote:Oh heavens no! That's one of the all-time favorite films. Like top 5 all time. I adore 2001. But it's lyrical and literary and gorgeous and thrilling and tense. It's less a film to me and more of a visual opera. I feel every frame of that movie, which is amazing since so much of it is sterile and cold and, you know, open space. A true, literal, artistic achievement.tree_ wrote:Joe, what you wrote makes sense. I guess I'm more of a cerebral viewer of films. You must've hated 2001: Space Odyssey? Am I correct there?
Man, if you love that movie I don't understand how you can't love Phantom Thread. This whole thing has me flustered. I'm going to go get a sandwich.
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maybe phantom is more akin to Barry Lyndon. How did you feel about that one?
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I've never seen Barry Lyndon. But just based on what I have seen of the movie (stills/clips/etc) I do think it's potentially a much more appropriate comparison. I should check it out.tree_ wrote:maybe phantom is more akin to Barry Lyndon. How did you feel about that one?
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OMGepilogue wrote:PTA is an interesting filmmaker but he's really hit/miss for me.
Hard Eight, Magnolia, Punch-Drunk Love, and The Master are outstanding films. A couple of them rank among the greatest American films I've seen.
There Will Be Blood is a pretty uninteresting and hollow film outside of DDL's otherworldly performance.
Boogie Nights and Phantom Thread are disposable. I haven't seen Inherent Vice.
But again, all of those movies have to things to like about them -- usually the cinematography or a performance or two. Though film is a visual medium, I tend to care more about character and story. So when a movie is gorgeous but the characters are terrible or the performances are lacking or the story is middling, then it doesn't resonant with me as strongly. No matter how pretty the thing is. I process art much more with my heart and my mind tends toward the literary. So the visual stuff, while I always appreciate it, isn't "the thing" for me most of the time.
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It's okay for people to like and dislike different things, Guy. Please calm down.
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Also a post of yoursepilogue wrote:Either this post is shtick or it's the most confusing thing I've ever read.VinylGuy wrote:Inherent Vice is another wonderful totally crazy movie. Have you read the book? Its impossible.
Phantom Thread is so fucking beautifully crafted, acted...the framing, the scope...the story is so fucking odd and great, and brave! imagine telling a toxic love story between two fucking crazy people these days...
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Are you saying a post of mine is shtick or confusing? Which post? Any post? All posts? What exactly are you trying to say here, Guy? And while we're at it, how do you feel about licorice and/or pizza?VinylGuy wrote:Also a post of yoursepilogue wrote:Either this post is shtick or it's the most confusing thing I've ever read.VinylGuy wrote:Inherent Vice is another wonderful totally crazy movie. Have you read the book? Its impossible.
Phantom Thread is so fucking beautifully crafted, acted...the framing, the scope...the story is so fucking odd and great, and brave! imagine telling a toxic love story between two fucking crazy people these days...
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THEY ABANDONED HIS BOY!tragabigzanda wrote:Boogie Nights is not disposable, that's absurd!
I think the heart of There Will Be Blood lies in Dano's character, who should've gotten more screen time.
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It is true we all have our opinions. But some things are objective and TWBB is simply not hollow. If you think it's uninteresting, that's cause you must be distracted or not paying attention or something. There's a lot going on.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Again, "hollow"? WTF
if anything, he's TOO much of a character
if anything, he's TOO much of a character
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troubledtree_ wrote:Again, "hollow"? WTF
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Dano's great in the movie and I think you're right that he's the heart.tragabigzanda wrote:Boogie Nights is not disposable, that's absurd!
I think the heart of There Will Be Blood lies in Dano's character, who should've gotten more screen time.
There are few films out there that legit hate that is as revered as Boogie Nights. People love the hell out of it.