America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

[simple schoolboy]

Prosecutor is doing well. I can see a conviction on lesser charges.

If it relies on provocation, what are the rules regarding regaining self defense? Generally, if you make a reasonable effort to retreat, you can regain self defense. Maybe WI is weird on this.

[dimejinky99]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

[Bi_3]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

No

[Bi_3]

This part of the prosecution’s closing:

[simple schoolboy]

This part of the prosecution’s closing:

"Childhood knife fights."

Is Binger just handing out n-word passes now?

[simple schoolboy]

The prosecutor is either aggressively ignorant about guns or lying. This is from Krause, the 2nd seat:

"There is no such thing as a left handed or a right handed gun."

Most left handed gun owners would dispute this. https://www.gunmade.com/best-left-handed-ar15/

For an AR pattern rifle, its may be less of an issue as the brass deflector will normally prevent brass from going straight into the face of a left handed shooter, but its not exactly ideal. I guess thats too much nuance for a jury, idk.

Muzzle sweeping the jury with his finger in the trigger guard was a boss move by the prosecutor Binger.

After this trial, "Pulling a Binger" will mean a great many bad things.

Edit: Krause again, "Everyone takes a beating sometimes, right?"

The rules by which he thinks society should run have no crossover with mine.

[macphisto]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

Both of you are…disturbed.

[spike]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

Both of you are…disturbed.

Good call, mac.

The police would’ve knelt on his neck until he stopped breathing.

[Peeps]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

Both of you are…disturbed.

Good call, mac.

The police would’ve knelt on his neck until he stopped breathing.

i forgot that there is no racism in america. how dumb of me

[BurtReynolds]

there is no doubt in my mind that if it was an african american kid who did this they already would have changed the laws to make it illegal and charged him retroactively

It would have never made court. That kid would have been shot on the spot that night

Both of you are…disturbed.

Good call, mac.

The police would’ve knelt on his neck until he stopped breathing.

i forgot that there is no racism in america. how dumb of me

yeahh man totally who can forget all those dead black rioters last year, murdered in the streets by the cops

[E.H. Ruddock]

don't think any of those rioters were carrying AR-15's tho

[BurtReynolds]

don't think any of those rioters were carrying AR-15's tho

Plenty of protesters were carrying AR-15s though. It's a shame they were cut down so remorselessly by the inhuman racist police.

I still have nightmares of the literal mountains of dead black bodies. RIP never forget. Truly we live in a racist society.

[BurtReynolds]

There is no doubt in my mind that those hundreds of bajillions of dead protesters would still be alive today if they were white.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Yeah, you are right. There is no racism in the U.S. What were these protests about again? Masks?

[epilogue]

Yeah, you are right. There is no racism in the U.S. What were these protests about again? Masks?

Marxism

[BurtReynolds]

Yeah totally. There is no doubt in my mind that if rittenhouse were black he'd be dead. No doubt whatsoever. It's just instant death in that case.

[E.H. Ruddock]

I'm not as smart as Burt or others in here, so I'm not pushing this any further.

[BurtReynolds]

I just hope they come to a verdict soon so I can officially retire from politics. This is my last ride, boys!

[simple schoolboy]

Is dropkick man black? If so, he's the only attacker Kyle didn't shoot. Sounds pretty anti-racist to me.

[simple schoolboy]

Some follow-up on this, the ipad device that the ADA was attempting to use to "zoom" into the video does actually do interpolation. Which is this:

One cannot "add" information to a picture that doesn't already include it. In order to make a "larger" picture, digital zoom uses interpolation to estimate what it "thinks" the pixels should be; it doesn't simply make pixels "bigger."

So it seems like the judge is inadvertently correct.

That’s a MacRumors message board post, and the follow-ups are not generally favorable to it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ky ... d.2322805/

The lawyers literally spent an hour+ on it today bro. You can listen to them repeatedly explain it to the judge.

That’s the red flag though. This case doesn’t exist in a vacuum. How many criminal defense trials do you think have used digital video before today? How many do you think used an iPad, or windows base video software, to present that video footage? How many zoomed in? Do you believe that the answer is zero?

Is the perception that they are making history in this trial, utilizing functionality hitherto unobtainable and without applicable precedence? Because there are multiple popular iPad apps for courtroom use that almost exclusively serve as organization and annotation tools…in other words, they rely on the iPad’s native video processing for actual video presentation.

This case isn’t a tech revolution. No one on either side is attempting to use technology that hasn’t existed in a courtroom for a decade or more. And this discussion we are having about the judge’s decision-making, and real (or feigned) misunderstandings about basic things is itself a sidebar….our responses to his actions exist independent of whether or not any of us believe Kyle should be found guilty. I have previously stated I think he should not. We can agree (or disagree) about that point without having to defend mediocre authority figures sucking at their job.

A judge has tremendous influence over proceedings that have profound ramifications for peoples lives. I find the idea that a sitting judge in the year 2021 could reasonably not understand basic digital video presentation disturbing.

I agree it's fucked up, but you may want to check out the video. The state's expert could barely explain what was happening. I think the internet was triggered when the defense attorney said "AI" in place of "algorithm", which is definitely wrong in the case... though I seem to recall the newest ipads do use AI for video playback. It's one of the biggest selling points of my streaming player (nvidia shield) and TV screen the judge saw it on would be doing image "processing" as well.

The publisher of the software the prosecution's witness used indicates in its documentation that it should not be used to generate evidence and discusses the potential downsides. Its intended for investigative purposes, among others.