Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

[harmless]

Yeah SW is really good. It's got the most Ed pronunciation problems, though.

[Jaeti]

it's an incredible solo, one of the best in a long time.

I kind of think this is true. It's what's turned me onto the song more and more.

[piratebob]

Do all you US guys know Father Ted?

Would the humour translate?

Harmless?

I love Father Ted. I named my dog Dougal

[jforte20]

It's been too long without a post.

[stip]

The action is in the sirens thread tonight.

[jforte20]

Not sure I want in on the action...See ya there.

[Farmer John]

It's been too long without a post.

Breaking Bad is on.

[hlniv]

let´s talk about mike´s solo on SW

Stone should have taken that solo....

What? Why? It's a good solo, and I don't care much about solos. Stone's solo on Getaway suits the song, but it's not very good.

Hmm, i think thats a Mike Solo on getaway...

Swallowed hole is an upbeat folky tune and stone has a much more systematic approach to such a tune that would be more fitting. Mike does his usual wankery (which I love!) but I think stone brings a whole new element to it and it would have been perfect for this. tight and concise.

You might be right, I'm not sure I know enough about their guitar styles except that Mike is a Hendrix worshipper. I'm not sure why I thought it was Stone on Getaway but probably because it's... different.

Do you listen to Neil at all?

Mike is a blues wanker and it works for most PJ songs but when stone takes over it adds an entirely new element. Mike's approach is tried and true but can get very stale quickly.

Listen to All Those Yesterdays or any live version of their "Fuckin Up". Stone is just as visceral but at the same time he seems to approach it at a much different level than mike. on the surface it sems calculated but then you realize stone is just as an emotional player as mike but he doesnt have the same speed and dexterity as mike. So, the notes he hits seem to hit just hit at the last possible moment of what you would expect....

Listen to "Fuckin up " from Chicago 2009 and you can hear how the song is elevated to a different level than what mike brings with his wankery.

Stone would have been perfect for swallowed whole.

I'm glad this thread hasn't completely gone to shit

[hlniv]

Swallowed Whole kind of hit me today. The beginning starts off slow, and I don't particularly like Ed's vocals in the beginning , but the bridge into the solo, the final verse, the chorus. It all turns into something beautiful and great, I'd love to see a fan made video for it. So much imagery in the song.

The song really soars. I can't wait to hear a CD quality version.

It has held on to my vote as the best so far. Sirens and Getaway are strong, though. So is Lightning Bolt.

Damn, i wish a real copy of this thing would leak already. 10/14 seems a long way off, and I'm gong to both shows in Worcester, traveling and such. Not a lot of time to immerse myself in it...

[jforte20]

Swallowed Whole kind of hit me today. The beginning starts off slow, and I don't particularly like Ed's vocals in the beginning , but the bridge into the solo, the final verse, the chorus. It all turns into something beautiful and great, I'd love to see a fan made video for it. So much imagery in the song.

The song really soars. I can't wait to hear a CD quality version.

It has held on to my vote as the best so far. Sirens and Getaway are strong, though. So is Lightning Bolt.

Damn, i wish a real copy of this thing would leak already. 10/14 seems a long way off, and I'm gong to both shows in Worcester, traveling and such. Not a lot of time to immerse myself in it...

Swallowed whole has been the one ive listened to the most.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

let´s talk about mike´s solo on SW

Stone should have taken that solo....

What? Why? It's a good solo, and I don't care much about solos. Stone's solo on Getaway suits the song, but it's not very good.

Hmm, i think thats a Mike Solo on getaway...

Swallowed hole is an upbeat folky tune and stone has a much more systematic approach to such a tune that would be more fitting. Mike does his usual wankery (which I love!) but I think stone brings a whole new element to it and it would have been perfect for this. tight and concise.

You might be right, I'm not sure I know enough about their guitar styles except that Mike is a Hendrix worshipper. I'm not sure why I thought it was Stone on Getaway but probably because it's... different.

Do you listen to Neil at all?

Mike is a blues wanker and it works for most PJ songs but when stone takes over it adds an entirely new element. Mike's approach is tried and true but can get very stale quickly.

Listen to All Those Yesterdays or any live version of their "Fuckin Up". Stone is just as visceral but at the same time he seems to approach it at a much different level than mike. on the surface it sems calculated but then you realize stone is just as an emotional player as mike but he doesnt have the same speed and dexterity as mike. So, the notes he hits seem to hit just hit at the last possible moment of what you would expect....

Listen to "Fuckin up " from Chicago 2009 and you can hear how the song is elevated to a different level than what mike brings with his wankery.

Stone would have been perfect for swallowed whole.

I'm glad this thread hasn't completely gone to shit

I like a lot of mikes solos, but i love every one of stones solos

[hlniv]

let´s talk about mike´s solo on SW

Stone should have taken that solo....

What? Why? It's a good solo, and I don't care much about solos. Stone's solo on Getaway suits the song, but it's not very good.

Hmm, i think thats a Mike Solo on getaway...

Swallowed hole is an upbeat folky tune and stone has a much more systematic approach to such a tune that would be more fitting. Mike does his usual wankery (which I love!) but I think stone brings a whole new element to it and it would have been perfect for this. tight and concise.

You might be right, I'm not sure I know enough about their guitar styles except that Mike is a Hendrix worshipper. I'm not sure why I thought it was Stone on Getaway but probably because it's... different.

Do you listen to Neil at all?

Mike is a blues wanker and it works for most PJ songs but when stone takes over it adds an entirely new element. Mike's approach is tried and true but can get very stale quickly.

Listen to All Those Yesterdays or any live version of their "Fuckin Up". Stone is just as visceral but at the same time he seems to approach it at a much different level than mike. on the surface it sems calculated but then you realize stone is just as an emotional player as mike but he doesnt have the same speed and dexterity as mike. So, the notes he hits seem to hit just hit at the last possible moment of what you would expect....

Listen to "Fuckin up " from Chicago 2009 and you can hear how the song is elevated to a different level than what mike brings with his wankery.

Stone would have been perfect for swallowed whole.

I'm glad this thread hasn't completely gone to shit

I like a lot of mikes solos, but i love every one of stones solos

A good stone solo just feels like Pearl Jam. Most stone solo songs sound unique to them. Not For You, for example. Is there are more distinctive pearl jam song?

[guitar_davey]

Soooo...

I see we're on to shitting on Mike McCready's solos.

Please fucking leak. Please.

[buckeye24]

While listening to the new 8 songs (6 lb and 2 ST demos) I realized that my favorite band is very good. Something isn't there though. I think all pearl jam has a point, and nearly every song is good or has its place.
There is great Pearl Jam though. The difference between the great Pearl Jam songs and the Pearl Jam songs that exist is what they are in response to. The great songs are in response to specific people or situations. The good songs/songs with a place are in response to ideas in broader terms, still well written but not the same.
The song Lightning Bolt represents this perfectly. A very well written song that has depth and is catchy. It is easily relatable on multiple levels. But, to me, it's missing that quality that songs like Alive, Black, RVM, Not For You, In My Tree, Jeremy, Porch, Betterman, etc have. The only song I could think of that is about a broad idea that is GREAT is Do the Evolution

[pappas]

Soooo...

I see we're on to shitting on Mike McCready's solos.

Please fucking leak. Please.

anyone who bashes on Mike solos is basically saying they hate PJ. It's the same as bashing on Stones riffs

[dimejinky99]

So that station in typical Pj fashion had a big build up to an announcement.. Of an announcement. Trip for two to Seattle to see the final show in December. Contest stars next Monday.

Feck

[Huell]

Soooo...

I see we're on to shitting on Mike McCready's solos.

Please fucking leak. Please.

Amen....

[Huell]

Soooo...

I see we're on to shitting on Mike McCready's solos.

Please fucking leak. Please.

Amen....

Or as they would say in Father Ted 'Eamon'....

[dimejinky99]

'Are you a racist now father? What's the churches position? Does this mean we all have to be racists?'

Such a great show:)

[Mine]

Soooo...

I see we're on to shitting on Mike McCready's solos.

Please fucking leak. Please.

anyone who bashes on Mike solos is basically saying they hate PJ. It's the same as bashing on Stones riffs

Let me just check this with you so i can be sure. Bashing Ed and Jeff is ok right? I'm not even going to ask you about Matt.