Catch All PTA's Licorice Pizza Thread (Nov. 26, 2021)

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Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)

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Great movie!
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im still thinking bout how amazing Alana Haim was. Magnetic, inspired performance.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Who said Hoffman wasnt great? jesus critics....another amazing performance
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Seriously, the performances were the best part of this movie
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tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:im still thinking bout how amazing Alana Haim was. Magnetic, inspired performance.
don't get me wrong, she was fantastic... But I disagree with some of the criticisms I've seen that Hoffman was somehow not up to the task? I thought he was excellent too.

The best performance though easily went to Harriett Sansom Harris:

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Also, the soundtrack is pretty spot on. I mean, there is nothing groundbreakin on house Let Me Roll It or Life On Mars, but they are still well used.

The title song from Jonny Greenwood is a beauty.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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the score didn’t make an impression on me
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Not sure how many songs the score have, but the title track is gorgeous.
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VinylGuy wrote:Not sure how many songs the score have, but the title track is gorgeous.
i def need to revisit it
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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i love that he seems to be a hustler in his short age, and it seems his mom too, and they both kinda navigate trough life with that in mind.
Im not sure were he stands with the other guys from PTA´s movies, also its kinda based on someone who exists...

But i would say he is his most happy character in all his filmography. Also the happiest movie too.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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its also his more disjointed movie to date maybe? Its as the movie is kinda making itself as it goes.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:i love that he seems to be a hustler in his short age, and it seems his mom too, and they both kinda navigate trough life with that in mind.
Im not sure were he stands with the other guys from PTA´s movies, also its kinda based on someone who exists...

But i would say he is his most happy character in all his filmography. Also the happiest movie too.
Yep, I had the same thought. He's so upbeat about his pursuits, and his failures.

Hard Eight: John is learning from Sydney how to make money in Vegas

Boogie Night: Dirk Diggler is making money off his wang

Magnolia: Frank TJ Mackey, Whiz Kid Donnie Smith, and Donnie's dad are all hustlers

Punch Drunk Love: Sandler has that thing with the Snack Pack air miles

There Will Be Blood: Plainview exploits land and people for money

The Master: Dodd exploits peoples' fears and uncertainties

Inherent Vice: Doc tries to leverage information and his (foggy) brain to further his work as a PI

The Phantom Thread: Reynolds Woodcock uses his intricate design work to make a career for himself

I find it really interesting that every one of his movies is focused on a man's connection with entrepreneurism, and that Licorice Pizza takes the lightest, most optimistic view of it yet. I kind of wonder if it's like a metaphor for where he's at in his career.
it’s an interesting observation, though it starts to fray when you apply it to IV and PT. better argument focusing on wolfmann & golden fang. no traction in PT, i think
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VinylGuy wrote:its also his more disjointed movie to date maybe? Its as the movie is kinda making itself as it goes.
i heard him say the best way he can describe this movie is it's a home movie with a bunch of friends and has to do with his childhood
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yeah, thats a good example. He was the dp on this one.
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Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)

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Saw this last night and I loved everything about it.
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