Eddie Vedder - Earthling

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I would give Earthling

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4 stars
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McParadigm wrote:Eddie Vedder is 57.

At 57, both sides of the Pink Floyd camp were basically done. The Who were two geezers, two ghosts, and some harmless sonic shadow puppets on the wall…the survivors made timid records that echoed of a once tremendous idea. Zeppelin was almost a legend at 57…you heard the stories, but they were hazy and esoteric.

Joey Ramone and Joe Strummer had both died at 50. Bruce Springsteen at 57 was reaching the beginning of the end of his time as songwriting craft master. Dylan was moments away from sounding like the passage of time itself on Love and Theft, and Tom Waits was writing his (I assume) final, spottiest post-New York record.

For god’s sake, 57 is so old that U2 have not yet released an album since reaching that age. When they shuffled blockily onto that stage next to Tim Cooke and announced that their latest approach to clinging to relevance was a force-of-will mooshing of their new record onto everyone’s phones, they were younger than.

So when I say I had low expectations for this solo record, in spite of thinking that the last Pearl Jam album was the first essential addition to their catalog in 18 years, I feel like I’m describing a reasonable position. I haven’t bothered with Flag Day, I find the uke record to be a less “felt” recreation of old, beautiful demos, and nothing else he’s done alone since Wild has moved me.

I fully expected to listen to this newest entry twice or less.

The early singles only reenforced this perception. Long Way is a perfectly fine production of my least favorite side of Eddie Vedder: keeper of the rock and roll flame by way of cover and mimicry. Guy who hears the vaguest hint of a band he likes in a chord he just played, so he just goes ahead and writes one of their songs for himself.

Haves is also fine, but it sounds a bit like a song that got rightfully passed over by the Prince of Thieves production team in favor of a Bryan Adams demo. Brother the Cloud does have a powerful second half, but it’s basically just a fine album track on a record that I was just told had two great big shrugs on it.

Anyways, I was bummed. Here I’d heard almost 1/4 of the record, and all of it seemed to confirm my fears that Gigaton was (for at least one crucial member of the band) lightning in a bottle. Not only did I not seek a link when the leak dropped, but I almost didn’t get around to listening to it the day it dropped. There’s a new Spoon record after all, and my favorite podcast has a new episode. I’ll confirm my fears about Eddie Vedder later.

It took like 20 seconds of Invincible to change my mind.

I’m honestly astounded that this record is as good as it is. I’ve said this before: maybe his current approach to singing or songwriting (or even just the sound of these last two records) turns you off, but you can’t deny that he sounds inspired. Reckless. His muse is off the leash like it’s 1998, and his heart is in his throat like he’s been handed a Jackson 5 Christmas song.

Not one of these songs sound like they were written because someone needed to write a song. None of them is without some amount of genuine care or warmth. None lacks an intrinsic propulsion. For the first time since Yield, the guy singing the song constantly sounds like *he thinks he has an absolute banger to share*. It doesn’t hurt that he sounds better than any other arena rock singer approaching 60, hands down

It’s not always great. Some stretches sound like a collection of forgotten mid-90’s modern rock radio hits. I’m old. Those stretches are pathetically fun to me.

But I find more to like than most here in the comfortably-quaint stomps through tradition like Picture, and maybe a little less than others in some of the biggest rock singalongs. Basically, I find the first track to be incredible, and the rest to be a bunch of good album tracks. Better as a sum than parts.

I’m also unexpectedly glad that this was a collaborative experience. I think that’s better for Ed, and for us. He is a far more powerful artist when he is reacting to something, musical ideas included, and I think flexing that muscle with others in his solo work can only benefit him when That Fucking Band reconvenes. I don’t think time spent alone has been generally good for him…it tends to exact a cost on his approach to the band and to his muse. Even Into the Wild required an outside invention to react to.

I see this as a fantastic solo addition to a varied career library. Better than Empty Glass, but not as good as All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes. Also more inspired than 4 out of 5 Beatles solo records, and those guys were still in their 20’s and 30’s when they made a lot of those.

Reviewing dates tonight reminded me that George Harrison died at 58. Fucking hell.
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Anders wrote:Tender Mercies is certainly better than several songs on this album.
I still think the outro to this song sounds like Bon Jovi. :/
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pearl jam sucks now
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guitar_davey wrote:
evenslow wrote:and in between we've got big surf.
I know everyone here gets on Eddie for his ocean/wave/surfing references, but this might be my favourite one he's ever made.
That's why I think Invincible works so damn well - he leans all the way in on what could otherwise be considered "cheesy" but the earnestness of the emotion combined with just enough tongue in cheek ("Echo Victor") gets it across the finish line.
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I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
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Yes, it appears the other guys in PJ just aren't on that Split Enz/Ramones/Springsteen/REM wavelength whereas Watt seemed to instinctively get what he was going for and just facilitate.
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liebzz wrote:I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
I could see Try working for PJ.
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McParadigm wrote:Eddie Vedder is 57.

At 57, both sides of the Pink Floyd camp were basically done. The Who were two geezers, two ghosts, and some harmless sonic shadow puppets on the wall…the survivors made timid records that echoed of a once tremendous idea. Zeppelin was almost a legend at 57…you heard the stories, but they were hazy and esoteric.

Joey Ramone and Joe Strummer had both died at 50. Bruce Springsteen at 57 was reaching the beginning of the end of his time as songwriting craft master. Dylan was moments away from sounding like the passage of time itself on Love and Theft, and Tom Waits was writing his (I assume) final, spottiest post-New York record.

For god’s sake, 57 is so old that U2 have not yet released an album since reaching that age. When they shuffled blockily onto that stage next to Tim Cooke and announced that their latest approach to clinging to relevance was a force-of-will mooshing of their new record onto everyone’s phones, they were younger than.

So when I say I had low expectations for this solo record, in spite of thinking that the last Pearl Jam album was the first essential addition to their catalog in 18 years, I feel like I’m describing a reasonable position. I haven’t bothered with Flag Day, I find the uke record to be a less “felt” recreation of old, beautiful demos, and nothing else he’s done alone since Wild has moved me.

I fully expected to listen to this newest entry twice or less.

The early singles only reenforced this perception. Long Way is a perfectly fine production of my least favorite side of Eddie Vedder: keeper of the rock and roll flame by way of cover and mimicry. Guy who hears the vaguest hint of a band he likes in a chord he just played, so he just goes ahead and writes one of their songs for himself.

Haves is also fine, but it sounds a bit like a song that got rightfully passed over by the Prince of Thieves production team in favor of a Bryan Adams demo. Brother the Cloud does have a powerful second half, but it’s basically just a fine album track on a record that I was just told had two great big shrugs on it.

Anyways, I was bummed. Here I’d heard almost 1/4 of the record, and all of it seemed to confirm my fears that Gigaton was (for at least one crucial member of the band) lightning in a bottle. Not only did I not seek a link when the leak dropped, but I almost didn’t get around to listening to it the day it dropped. There’s a new Spoon record after all, and my favorite podcast has a new episode. I’ll confirm my fears about Eddie Vedder later.

It took like 20 seconds of Invincible to change my mind.

I’m honestly astounded that this record is as good as it is. I’ve said this before: maybe his current approach to singing or songwriting (or even just the sound of these last two records) turns you off, but you can’t deny that he sounds inspired. Reckless. His muse is off the leash like it’s 1998, and his heart is in his throat like he’s been handed a Jackson 5 Christmas song.

Not one of these songs sound like they were written because someone needed to write a song. None of them is without some amount of genuine care or warmth. None lacks an intrinsic propulsion. For the first time since Yield, the guy singing the song constantly sounds like *he thinks he has an absolute banger to share*. It doesn’t hurt that he sounds better than any other arena rock singer approaching 60, hands down

It’s not always great. Some stretches sound like a collection of forgotten mid-90’s modern rock radio hits. I’m old. Those stretches are pathetically fun to me.

But I find more to like than most here in the comfortably-quaint stomps through tradition like Picture, and maybe a little less than others in some of the biggest rock singalongs. Basically, I find the first track to be incredible, and the rest to be a bunch of good album tracks. Better as a sum than parts.

I’m also unexpectedly glad that this was a collaborative experience. I think that’s better for Ed, and for us. He is a far more powerful artist when he is reacting to something, musical ideas included, and I think flexing that muscle with others in his solo work can only benefit him when That Fucking Band reconvenes. I don’t think time spent alone has been generally good for him…it tends to exact a cost on his approach to the band and to his muse. Even Into the Wild required an outside invention to react to.

I see this as a fantastic solo addition to a varied career library. Better than Empty Glass, but not as good as All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes. Also more inspired than 4 out of 5 Beatles solo records, and those guys were still in their 20’s and 30’s when they made a lot of those.

Reviewing dates tonight reminded me that George Harrison died at 58. Fucking hell.
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guitar_davey wrote:
evenslow wrote:and in between we've got big surf.
I know everyone here gets on Eddie for his ocean/wave/surfing references, but this might be my favourite one he's ever made.
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Regarding “in between, we’ve got big surf”, on the smartless podcast he talked about how he can’t surf big waves anymore. For me that adds a touching layer to this lyric, as he is enthusiastically celebrating something that he can’t enjoy the same way anymore.
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Can always count on McP to write something awesome.

I too was pleasantly surprised at how quickly Invincible grabbed me. I was instantly into it.

I'll reiterate what others have said too, the timing of this album is excellent. Gigaton came at a perfect time, and the message and mood it conveyed was perfect for that period. This Ed solo effort is exactly what I feel like I want and need right now. I've always felt that Vitalogy-No Code-Yield are my favorite PJ albums, and I'm generally most into the more introspective and moody PJ albums. But at this point in my life I find myself wanting that less. I don't know if it's mostly a matter of getting older and finding peace amidst the noise and tumult of life, craving joy and simplicity after a few years of repressive pain, or both. Regardless, an album this joyful and fun feels right, right about now.
McParadigm wrote:Eddie Vedder is 57.

At 57, both sides of the Pink Floyd camp were basically done. The Who were two geezers, two ghosts, and some harmless sonic shadow puppets on the wall…the survivors made timid records that echoed of a once tremendous idea. Zeppelin was almost a legend at 57…you heard the stories, but they were hazy and esoteric.

Joey Ramone and Joe Strummer had both died at 50. Bruce Springsteen at 57 was reaching the beginning of the end of his time as songwriting craft master. Dylan was moments away from sounding like the passage of time itself on Love and Theft, and Tom Waits was writing his (I assume) final, spottiest post-New York record.

For god’s sake, 57 is so old that U2 have not yet released an album since reaching that age. When they shuffled blockily onto that stage next to Tim Cooke and announced that their latest approach to clinging to relevance was a force-of-will mooshing of their new record onto everyone’s phones, they were younger than.

So when I say I had low expectations for this solo record, in spite of thinking that the last Pearl Jam album was the first essential addition to their catalog in 18 years, I feel like I’m describing a reasonable position. I haven’t bothered with Flag Day, I find the uke record to be a less “felt” recreation of old, beautiful demos, and nothing else he’s done alone since Wild has moved me.

I fully expected to listen to this newest entry twice or less.

The early singles only reenforced this perception. Long Way is a perfectly fine production of my least favorite side of Eddie Vedder: keeper of the rock and roll flame by way of cover and mimicry. Guy who hears the vaguest hint of a band he likes in a chord he just played, so he just goes ahead and writes one of their songs for himself.

Haves is also fine, but it sounds a bit like a song that got rightfully passed over by the Prince of Thieves production team in favor of a Bryan Adams demo. Brother the Cloud does have a powerful second half, but it’s basically just a fine album track on a record that I was just told had two great big shrugs on it.

Anyways, I was bummed. Here I’d heard almost 1/4 of the record, and all of it seemed to confirm my fears that Gigaton was (for at least one crucial member of the band) lightning in a bottle. Not only did I not seek a link when the leak dropped, but I almost didn’t get around to listening to it the day it dropped. There’s a new Spoon record after all, and my favorite podcast has a new episode. I’ll confirm my fears about Eddie Vedder later.

It took like 20 seconds of Invincible to change my mind.

I’m honestly astounded that this record is as good as it is. I’ve said this before: maybe his current approach to singing or songwriting (or even just the sound of these last two records) turns you off, but you can’t deny that he sounds inspired. Reckless. His muse is off the leash like it’s 1998, and his heart is in his throat like he’s been handed a Jackson 5 Christmas song.

Not one of these songs sound like they were written because someone needed to write a song. None of them is without some amount of genuine care or warmth. None lacks an intrinsic propulsion. For the first time since Yield, the guy singing the song constantly sounds like *he thinks he has an absolute banger to share*. It doesn’t hurt that he sounds better than any other arena rock singer approaching 60, hands down

It’s not always great. Some stretches sound like a collection of forgotten mid-90’s modern rock radio hits. I’m old. Those stretches are pathetically fun to me.

But I find more to like than most here in the comfortably-quaint stomps through tradition like Picture, and maybe a little less than others in some of the biggest rock singalongs. Basically, I find the first track to be incredible, and the rest to be a bunch of good album tracks. Better as a sum than parts.

I’m also unexpectedly glad that this was a collaborative experience. I think that’s better for Ed, and for us. He is a far more powerful artist when he is reacting to something, musical ideas included, and I think flexing that muscle with others in his solo work can only benefit him when That Fucking Band reconvenes. I don’t think time spent alone has been generally good for him…it tends to exact a cost on his approach to the band and to his muse. Even Into the Wild required an outside invention to react to.

I see this as a fantastic solo addition to a varied career library. Better than Empty Glass, but not as good as All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes. Also more inspired than 4 out of 5 Beatles solo records, and those guys were still in their 20’s and 30’s when they made a lot of those.

Reviewing dates tonight reminded me that George Harrison died at 58. Fucking hell.
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This has been my take all along, which is what makes me nervous about a PJ-Watt collaboration. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but something has to change drastically and some big compromises have to be made. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about what a PJ album would sound like if they leaned HARD into the fun-zone and let all expectations go of what they should sound like. Looks like they are already producing with Watt, so let's see what happens...
liebzz wrote:I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
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guitar_davey wrote:
liebzz wrote:I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
I could see Try working for PJ.
I can’t. I mean, I could more easily imagine Mrs. Mills, in part because Pearl Jam nailed a not so dissimilar sound on All Those Yesterdays. Try is a fun pop off, and I always feel like even in their loud and fast songs, Pearl Jam has a different kind of layering on guitar between Mike, Stone, and Jeff that propel the song forward that Try doesn’t do (probably because of the harmonica). Try is a great song but for this band.
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Am I gonna have to get this thing?
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wease wrote:Am I gonna have to get this thing?
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You should listen to it. It’s on all streaming platforms.
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Fattie_Vedder wrote:This has been my take all along, which is what makes me nervous about a PJ-Watt collaboration. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but something has to change drastically and some big compromises have to be made. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about what a PJ album would sound like if they leaned HARD into the fun-zone and let all expectations go of what they should sound like. Looks like they are already producing with Watt, so let's see what happens...
liebzz wrote:I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
Just because Ed produced a "fun" record with Watt doesn't mean that Pearl Jam would produce a "fun" record with Watt. Most importantly, Watt brought out of Ed what he needed in the moment. Same can be true for pearl jam as a collective. Whatever that might be....
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liebzz wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
liebzz wrote:I really like that post too.

I was thinking about this and I just think it was a wise decision for Eddie to create this with a totally different band. I think even that this album is what he wanted Backspacer and Lightning Bolt to be, but the personnel didn’t match the mood, which is why I think the delivery is clunky and awkward on a lot of those songs. This album feels much more organic and natural to current Eddie. Gigaton feels like a organic and natural sound for Pearl Jam. They are very different albums and if Eddie wants to create in this space and leave it out of Pearl Jam, that would be fantastic. When he tries to shoehorn in things he does outside Pearl Jam into the band’s work, that’s when I think they start to get into trouble - my exhibits are Sleeping By Myself, Swallowed Whole versus Fallout Today, and Just Breathe versus the Into the Wild soundtrack.

Eddie should not be pushing a Tom Petty rave up, or Try into Pearl Jam on the next record.
I could see Try working for PJ.
I can’t. I mean, I could more easily imagine Mrs. Mills, in part because Pearl Jam nailed a not so dissimilar sound on All Those Yesterdays. Try is a fun pop off, and I always feel like even in their loud and fast songs, Pearl Jam has a different kind of layering on guitar between Mike, Stone, and Jeff that propel the song forward that Try doesn’t do (probably because of the harmonica). Try is a great song but for this band.
Pj would nail try and mike would do ripping rockabilly/blues shredding not unlike "Dont Believe in Christmas"

its a punk driven song. They'd do great on it.
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Strat wrote:
Pj would nail try and mike would do ripping rockabilly/blues shredding not unlike "Dont Believe in Christmas"

its a punk driven song. They'd do great on it.
Perfect example.
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I don't mind the Flag Day soundtrack, but its kind of a chore to listen to at times.

This thing on the other hand just brings a big dumb grin to my face each and every time. 6-7 listens in and im firmly in the "he knocked it out of the park" stage.
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