130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:08 am

Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:14 am

This is an easy vote for DTE. Hail Hail is a really insightful set of lyrics and a satisfying garage/grunge rock performance, but despite its rawness it's always hit me in the head more than the heart. And Eddie sounds like he's holding his noise his whole performance.

DTE is a singular moment. And that video. And that MSG performance when the floor was shaking. Too many memories. DTE is a song I've definitely been taking for granted, and feels more prescient than ever

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:19 am

Hail hail no question.

It’s funny that stip perceived hail hail as hitting him in the head, with DTE hitting him in the heart. It’s the exact opposite for me. That Hail Hail chord progression is a juggernaut and a jigsaw puzzle all in one, and Ed does a miraculous job of making it feel breezy.

As much as I enjoy DTE, I’ve always felt — since the first time I heard it — that it was a very brainy song. You can kind of hear them working to turn it into a rave up, and significant parts of it — the distorted vocal, the hallelujah, even the Macfarlane imagery — all coalesce towards something that was articulated to be the perfect combination of edgy and commercially viable.

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:23 am

I think DTE is a fairly cerebral song as well. But there is a primal intensity to it that is always what I'm looking for. Breezy is a good adjective for Hail Haiil, and I think that's one of the things that keeps it parked firmly in the lower 4 star range for me. It has always felt like it lacked the all encompassing fullness of so many of the great rockers before it.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:24 am

I think that, antithetical to most of their music, the fullness is in the guitars, and Ed is the sugar that makes it go down easy

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:26 am

Man, both are absolute classic stone gossard guitar pieces. DTE just dances around the fret board with these riffs totally bouncing off each other.

There are few things i love more than PJ cutting into DTE (especially anything pre 2006). Honestly earth shaking.

Hail Hail is.....well i can't say enough about it. Ed is very subtle on this one and the lyrics are absolutely top notch.

Im at a loss here!

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:27 am

Perhaps this will help

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:28 am

fucking pearl jam

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:28 am

this, then.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:29 am

I’d think that sharing a post-2005 version of an older song would work in the other song’s favor

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:32 am

well I tried to share MSG but it didn't work.

I think 2006 is maybe one of their top 3 tours, though. After 2006, maybe.

But here you go:

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:33 am

It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!

Post by **stip** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:35 am

you need to use a special filter

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:35 am

tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!

Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman

Jaeti · Post by **Jaeti** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:54 am

No wrong answer here, but, Hail Hail.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:54 am

It’s evolution, baby

wease · Post by **wease** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:57 am

Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman

He does? I never noticed that. Where at?

wease · Post by **wease** » Mon March 07, 2022 1:59 am

I am woman enough to be your man.

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Mon March 07, 2022 2:03 am

wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman
He does? I never noticed that. Where at?

Coming out of the bridge. Watch his hands and listen then watch his face. He misses all the chords.

wease · Post by **wease** » Mon March 07, 2022 2:06 am

Strat wrote:
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman
He does? I never noticed that. Where at?
Coming out of the bridge. Watch his hands and listen then watch his face. He misses all the chords.

I will do that.

Red Mosquito