Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

[Jorge]

you liked a man loving his pig more than a scene with women teaming up and fighting bad guys "for some reason"? have you ever been around women?

I liked it more too. It's a better scene from a better movie

What Argo is missing is that Endgame is essentially 3 hours of a bunch of high-fives for MCU fans; while that specific moment did feel artificial and awkward, it's in keeping with the rest of the movie. My little sister loved that moment

[Jorge]

Not everything is for everyone, and fair enough

[The Argonaut]

I fucking love the idea that female superheroes teaming up and being badass needs to be "earned" by the story, but a bunch of men teaming up and fighting bad guys don't need to do shit to convince anyone that it looks cool

That moment was cringe as hell. The Mandalorian had a friggin great scene where a bunch of women teamed up and kicked butt. They just didn't feel the need to basically pause the show and say "hey everyone look at this" before they did it.

[Ms Harmless]

Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Ms Harmless]

I fucking love the idea that female superheroes teaming up and being badass needs to be "earned" by the story, but a bunch of men teaming up and fighting bad guys don't need to do shit to convince anyone that it looks cool

That moment was cringe as hell. The Mandalorian had a friggin great scene where a bunch of women teamed up and kicked butt. They just didn't feel the need to basically pause the show and say "hey everyone look at this" before they did it.

doesn't Marvel do this before literally everything dramatic or funny? Marvel signposts everything

[Ms Harmless]

if scenes with female superheroes draw attention to themselves at the moment it's because there haven't been enough of them, and some people have been waiting to see themselves depicted on screen; that's not gonna resonate with everyone, it isn't supposed to, but the big myth is that anything before it resonated with everyone

[epilogue]

I fucking love the idea that female superheroes teaming up and being badass needs to be "earned" by the story, but a bunch of men teaming up and fighting bad guys don't need to do shit to convince anyone that it looks cool

That moment was cringe as hell. The Mandalorian had a friggin great scene

No it didn't.

I laughed

[The Argonaut]

I fucking love the idea that female superheroes teaming up and being badass needs to be "earned" by the story, but a bunch of men teaming up and fighting bad guys don't need to do shit to convince anyone that it looks cool

That moment was cringe as hell. The Mandalorian had a friggin great scene where a bunch of women teamed up and kicked butt. They just didn't feel the need to basically pause the show and say "hey everyone look at this" before they did it.

doesn't Marvel do this before literally everything dramatic or funny? Marvel signposts everything

And that's why Batman is better than Marvel

[epilogue]

Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

[Ms Harmless]

I fucking love the idea that female superheroes teaming up and being badass needs to be "earned" by the story, but a bunch of men teaming up and fighting bad guys don't need to do shit to convince anyone that it looks cool

That moment was cringe as hell. The Mandalorian had a friggin great scene where a bunch of women teamed up and kicked butt. They just didn't feel the need to basically pause the show and say "hey everyone look at this" before they did it.

doesn't Marvel do this before literally everything dramatic or funny? Marvel signposts everything

And that's why Batman is better than Marvel

excepting Daredevil, yes

[Ms Harmless]

Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

[The Argonaut]

I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

[Ms Harmless]

I like nuance in some areas, dislike it in others; everyone has their own yardstick in terms of how much ambiguity a story should have and where

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[The Argonaut]

I like nuance in some areas, dislike it in others; everyone has their own yardstick in terms of how much ambiguity a story should have and where

Yeah. No piece of art is going to please all the people all the time. I was happy with this one, maybe you won't be. That's OK
My only question is why Joe felt the need to be so mean to me about it

[epilogue]

Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

Same.

It seems to matter to Zoe, though. So that's something. Based on some stuff I've heard she really pushed for having some of the shots in the movie taken directly from the comics --- "let's bring this panel to life" etc.

If that's true and if she gets her own spin-off, maybe she'd have some sway. Fingers crossed.

[epilogue]

I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.