Ukraine

[elliseamos]

The "Masters of War" lyric about lawn signs comes to mind.

[McParadigm]

The "Masters of War" lyric about lawn signs comes to mind.

Like Judas of old
You put signs in your lawn
“In this house we believe
BLM, Science,” yawn.
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your skin
Like I see through the water
My hat is like a shark’s fin

[dimejinky99]

Heartbreaking listening to their stories.


There’s people being buried in mass graves Just pits.


Their names aren’t even being taken to let their families know.
They’re just burying them. And out of necessity

What the fuck is going on

This world

[elliseamos]

This is awful, Dime.

But it's not the world.

It's one *shithole country.

Spoiler: show

*I mean Russia

[elliseamos]

"More than 40 Republican U.S. senators on Thursday called for President Biden to aid “the transfer of aircraft and air defense systems” to Ukraine a day after officials quashed Poland’s offer to send fighter jets with American help.

The senators said in a letter that they “strongly disagree” with the Biden administration’s stance on Poland’s proposal and said the Ukrainian military is in “dire need of more lethal aid” as it fights Russia’s invasion. They urged the president to work with NATO allies on providing those resources — uniting behind a step that U.S. officials have warned could draw the Western alliance into war."

For a guy that wants bipartisanship to sail again, Joe won't be able to pass up this opportunity.

[96583UP]

whole thing is pretty terrible

Russia's strategy at this point just seems to be to surround the cities and pound civilians / force a humanitarian disaster in the hopes the Ukraine government surrenders to save lives

their fail-safe is to force a nuclear accident at a captured power plant

basically a country-sized hostage situation

[Rob]

Ezra Klein had a great conversation with Fiona Hill on his podcast. Definitely worth a listen.

This podcast was excellent. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I listened to all of Ezra's podcasts until Trump lost 2020, then decided to take a (somewhat) break from politics and never really got back into the podcast thing. I've always held Ezra Klein up there above most media figures. He's smart but humble and very down to Earth.

[elliseamos]

[dimejinky99]

Ezra Klein had a great conversation with Fiona Hill on his podcast. Definitely worth a listen.

This podcast was excellent. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I listened to all of Ezra's podcasts until Trump lost 2020, then decided to take a (somewhat) break from politics and never really got back into the podcast thing. I've always held Ezra Klein up there above most media figures. He's smart but humble and very down to Earth.

Link please ?

[Rob]

Ezra Klein had a great conversation with Fiona Hill on his podcast. Definitely worth a listen.

This podcast was excellent. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I listened to all of Ezra's podcasts until Trump lost 2020, then decided to take a (somewhat) break from politics and never really got back into the podcast thing. I've always held Ezra Klein up there above most media figures. He's smart but humble and very down to Earth.

Link please ?

https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/t ... 0553283249

[spike]

whole thing is pretty terrible

Russia's strategy at this point just seems to be to surround the cities and pound civilians / force a humanitarian disaster in the hopes the Ukraine government surrenders to save lives

their fail-safe is to force a nuclear accident at a captured power plant

basically a country-sized hostage situation

I believe siege tactics is Russia’s go to historically.

[McParadigm]

All according to plan

[Anders]

Here's a small update from my relatives in Ukraine. They lost the gas to their house for a few days, but now it's back, so they have heat and can use their stove.

All the nearby shops are closed. So getting food is difficult. They live in an agricultural area, however, it's still late winter there.

The Russians sent a relief shipment to Kherson, but the natives refused to accept it.

[dimejinky99]

Ezra Klein had a great conversation with Fiona Hill on his podcast. Definitely worth a listen.

This podcast was excellent. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I listened to all of Ezra's podcasts until Trump lost 2020, then decided to take a (somewhat) break from politics and never really got back into the podcast thing. I've always held Ezra Klein up there above most media figures. He's smart but humble and very down to Earth.

Link please ?

https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/t ... 0553283249

Brilliant thank you. That lady knows her stuff.

[dimejinky99]

Here's a small update from my relatives in Ukraine. They lost the gas to their house for a few days, but now it's back, so they have heat and can use their stove.

All the nearby shops are closed. So getting food is difficult. They live in an agricultural area, however, it's still late winter there.

The Russians sent a relief shipment to Kherson, but the natives refused to accept it.

Good to hear they’re safe Anders. I understand them not taking it but that’s part of the plan too. They’re gonna cut off all supply lines and people are gonna just be drives to take their aid. And that’ll be portaged awesome Russia saving the day and ‘liberating’ them

Ah evil bind to be in

[Anders]

Here's a small update from my relatives in Ukraine. They lost the gas to their house for a few days, but now it's back, so they have heat and can use their stove.

All the nearby shops are closed. So getting food is difficult. They live in an agricultural area, however, it's still late winter there.

The Russians sent a relief shipment to Kherson, but the natives refused to accept it.

Good to hear they’re safe Anders. I understand them not taking it but that’s part of the plan too. They’re gonna cut off all supply lines and people are gonna just be drives to take their aid. And that’ll be portaged awesome Russia saving the day and ‘liberating’ them

Ah evil bind to be in

Yes, happy that they are safe for now. They live next to the only city that has been fully conquered so far, Kherson. And that city seems to have had it a lot better than Mariupol and Kharkiv that are still fighting.

There’s a video earlier in the thread of the people of Kherson marching in protest against the invaders. But there seems to be little killing in that city at the moment.

[dimejinky99]

I can’t spell anymore.

Apologies.

[dimejinky99]

The Russian embassy to Ireland in Dublin is on Orwell road. Yes seriously.
The local council have voted to change the name:)

[dimejinky99]

She’s not wrong. The blind eye we turn to all things going wrong in the Middle East makes me sick and always has.

[Anders]

I think people are to quick to say what about this, and what about this, when the war has only lasted two weeks, and it’s still escalating. A hospital was bombed just a few days ago.

Of course politicians should think about the whole world in general. I strongly believe and know to my inner core, that all people are of equal worth, whether female or male or any gender, young or old (although we as adults have an extra responsibility for children), regardless of creed or appearance, the color of their skin or who they are attracted to. In Ukraine, the US, Ireland, Norway, the Philippines, Jordan, Iraq, Botswana and anywhere else.

Afghanistan is difficult. In the 90s there was very little western influence there, few or no soldiers, and yet it was awful there. After 9/11 the west sent in soldiers, they were there for 20 years. After they pulled out, the Taliban again seized power. Very difficult to cooperate with them, or to go there to help and feel safe. Funds for the Taliban probably won’t help.

Again, this really is better suited for another thread. Things are bad in Ukraine now. Let’s not go «but what about» in this thread, and rather focus on Ukraine.