BurtReynolds wrote:The amount of infringements you can justify by appealing to the continued existence of our comically ineffective medical system is so vast I can't believe anyone would fall for it. If our medical system can only exist by an ever increasing nanny state taking care of us (at gunpoint), then we'd be better off without it. Find a way to pay for it while allowing humans to still be free to be idiots, or admit you are just want to rule people (fOr ThEiR oWn gOoD.)
What are some other things that weigh on our healthcare system? Drugs? Alcohol? Red meat? Sugar? Motorcycles? Too much TV?
BurtReynolds wrote:"You don't think sugar should be banned? What are you, pro-sugar?!"
But in the case of seatbelts, isn’t it pretty much a fact that they make you safer? So why argue about seatbelt laws as something that is the government trying to control you? Seems like arguing for the sake of arguing
Isn't it a fact that not eating sugar or processed foods would make you safer?
Laws are unquestionably trying to control you. That's literally what a law is.
What if I don't want to be safer? I know it sounds crazy to people here. I know most people here are completely incapable of understanding why anyone would ever ask such a question. But am I allowed to exist in your world? Or must I be stopped by you?
BurtReynolds wrote:The amount of infringements you can justify by appealing to the continued existence of our comically ineffective medical system is so vast I can't believe anyone would fall for it. If our medical system can only exist by an ever increasing nanny state taking care of us (at gunpoint), then we'd be better off without it. Find a way to pay for it while allowing humans to still be free to be idiots, or admit you are just want to rule people (fOr ThEiR oWn gOoD.)
What are some other things that weigh on our healthcare system? Drugs? Alcohol? Red meat? Sugar? Motorcycles? Too much TV?
We can save so many lives!
Is there anything you do like about this country?
1st and 2nd amendments are pretty cool. Plus those beautiful mountains!
BurtReynolds wrote:"You don't think sugar should be banned? What are you, pro-sugar?!"
But in the case of seatbelts, isn’t it pretty much a fact that they make you safer? So why argue about seatbelt laws as something that is the government trying to control you? Seems like arguing for the sake of arguing
Isn't it a fact that not eating sugar or processed foods would make you safer?
Laws are unquestionably trying to control you. That's literally what a law is.
What if I don't want to be safer? I know it sounds crazy to people here. I know most people here are completely incapable of understanding why anyone would ever ask such a question. But am I allowed to exist in your world? Or must I be stopped by you?
BurtReynolds wrote:"You don't think sugar should be banned? What are you, pro-sugar?!"
But in the case of seatbelts, isn’t it pretty much a fact that they make you safer? So why argue about seatbelt laws as something that is the government trying to control you? Seems like arguing for the sake of arguing
Isn't it a fact that not eating sugar or processed foods would make you safer?
Laws are unquestionably trying to control you. That's literally what a law is.
What if I don't want to be safer? I know it sounds crazy to people here. I know most people here are completely incapable of understanding why anyone would ever ask such a question. But am I allowed to exist in your world? Or must I be stopped by you?
It’s isn’t about just you!!!
yes, if I choose not to wear a seatbelt, it literally is only about me.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I mean the sugar example isn’t really the same because people can live healthy lives while still eating some sugar.
So we should have no laws? What’s your line here? I’m just trying to understand your perfect society.
People can live healthy lives not wearing seatbelts, too.
I don't think there should be laws forcing people to make "good" decisions about their own health, because you or no one else has any business deciding what is best for someone else.
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How many people are seriously injured because they didn't wear a seatbelt over the course of their lives vs how many people die from diabetes and heart disease and cancer? Do you even know?
Rob wrote:Right, the sugar argument is ridiculous. You can moderate sugar, you can't moderate reckless behavior.
LOL who the fuck are you? The absolute audacity of you people!
Mind your own business. how fucking hard is that?
Impossible for those with a hard on for totalitarianism.
They think of themselves as the saviors of all mankind, so they can't do anything wrong even if they have to force people to make "good" decisions (as defined by them, naturally). It's pathological.
Rob wrote:Next time I walk down Main St and have to piss, I'll just pull my dick out and piss on the sidewalk, in front of everyone. Because... freedom.
When I have to take a piss, I go to a urinal. Just crazy libertarian things. I guess non-libertarians have to be made to? Does the state also have to wipe their asses?
BurtReynolds wrote:"You don't think sugar should be banned? What are you, pro-sugar?!"
But in the case of seatbelts, isn’t it pretty much a fact that they make you safer? So why argue about seatbelt laws as something that is the government trying to control you? Seems like arguing for the sake of arguing
Isn't it a fact that not eating sugar or processed foods would make you safer?
Laws are unquestionably trying to control you. That's literally what a law is.
What if I don't want to be safer? I know it sounds crazy to people here. I know most people here are completely incapable of understanding why anyone would ever ask such a question. But am I allowed to exist in your world? Or must I be stopped by you?
It’s isn’t about just you!!!
yes, if I choose not to wear a seatbelt, it literally is only about me.
I’m referring to laws in general. Or what you call unlivable government oppression.
Rob wrote:Right, the sugar argument is ridiculous. You can moderate sugar, you can't moderate reckless behavior.
LOL who the fuck are you? The absolute audacity of you people!
Mind your own business. how fucking hard is that?
Impossible for those with a hard on for totalitarianism.
I'll mind my business when you stop raising my premiums.
What’s your BMI?
I'm not overweight but I see your point. This is why I said above that there has to be a line somewhere. There are some things we can do to help, and some things are beyond what we want the government to try to control. You don't do your argument justice by comparing seatbelt laws to totalitarianism.
