Watched a bit of this last night.
Luke turning up and talking to Leia and confronting kylo is just so Beatifully done.
The opposite mirror image of what he tells her about having to try save Vader.
And then the face off itself is just wonderful. All those people complaining there was no fight. That’s not the Jedi way lads. This was the most Jedi shit imaginable.
Far more effective storytelling than having luke turn up and just crushing all those imperial walkers or pulling star destroyers out of the sky. That would have been cheap bad transformers bullshit.
There’s heart and so much thought into what Johnson wrote here.
dimejinky99 wrote:Far more effective storytelling than having luke turn up and just crushing all those imperial walkers or pulling star destroyers out of the sky. That would have been cheap bad transformers bullshit.
Agreed. As much as I would have loved to see THAT, i also agree it would be cheap storytelling. Or at least very easy storytelling. Luke would be too powerful and would crush the entire opposition and then what story do you have? Just luke doing a bunch of cool shit.
I think the real issue is with the ST is how they landed the airplane with the 3rd act. But, we've hashed that out quite enough.
That whole sequence with Luke and Leia and then the fight with Kylo is a masterpiece. Not only in mood and framing but also in how it treats its characters.
At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
This movie still holds up. Of course, I think the entire ST still holds up. But this I do think this clearly the star. I go back and forth a lot but most of the time I call The Last Jedi my favorite Star Wars movie. It's just so satisfying on every level. Visually and emotionally it's damn near perfect.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
yeah, with the three movies already being released, this one feels the superior one even tough i feel TFA is the one i want to see the most.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
yeah, with the three movies already being released, this one feels the superior one even tough i feel TFA is the one i want to see the most.
I get that.
That happens with me and the OT, too. Empire is clearly the best one but it's not the one I want to watch the most.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
I like the idea of this as a standalone.
it does work better as a standalone because its actually thought that way, right? i mean if you remove it from the trilogy it does very little in terms of narrative with the other two.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:At the time I didn't like this movie mainly because it didn't seem a natural succession to TFA. But after seeing how TRoS went, this is by far the best of the 3 of the sequels. Very disappointed overall in the sequels but liked this one a lot as a stand alone.
I like the idea of this as a standalone.
it does work better as a standalone because its actually thought that way, right? i mean if you remove it from the trilogy it does very little in terms of narrative with the other two.
Such a weird way of making a trilogy by the way.
It's well documented that Rian worked with JJ while developing the script. JJ even changed some things in TFA to accommodate Rian. I don't think it's fair to say it was thought of as a stand alone at all. There was collaboration. That's not weird. That's how these things work.
It's the way all three trilogies were made. The PT less so only because Lucas couldn't find another person to direct movies he didn't want to direct. But even that changed concepts a ton in the process. Lucas just kept changing his mind about things.
yeah, of course they talked about it, but these films have so little in common is almost funny. And if Colin made the third one, that one had nothing in common with what jj did so...my point.
Every project and trilogy has its inner rules, and this trilogy feels rushed to say the least.
VinylGuy wrote:yeah, of course they talked about it, but these films have so little in common is almost funny. And if Colin made the third one, that one had nothing in common with what jj did so...my point.
Every project and trilogy has its inner rules, and this trilogy feels rushed to say the least.
