Who's better band and/or live band Pearl Jam or Zeppelin?

[Lament]

little fish litlte fish swimming in the water
come back, man and bring me my daughter

Hey man, it's "Little fish, big fish."

C'mon now. Get it right.

[Strat]

little fish litlte fish swimming in the water
come back, man and bring me my daughter

Hey man, it's "Little fish, big fish."

C'mon now. Get it right.

I have not heard that song in 15 fucking years i cant believe i still remember that!

[melonhead4]

Honestly, Led Zeppelin is probably only behind Pink Floyd when it comes to Sacred Cows who just don't seem all that special to me. Maybe the Doors as well.

Zeppelin plagarised alot of stuff...especially on their first two albums...Pink Floyd and the Doors kick major arse..both were very innovative and made abunch of great albums

[stupidmop]

Are pearl jam considered music for jocks? what with thier baseball/basketball connections...or obsessions or whatever. They're more tied to sports than a lot of bands i think. They're always being played on sports channels apparently, or do they play loads of bands and i only hear about it when its pearl jam?

I'm in england where we don't have much baseball, basketball, jocks ...or pearl jam, so i might be talking out my ass.

[Lament]

little fish litlte fish swimming in the water
come back, man and bring me my daughter

Hey man, it's "Little fish, big fish."

C'mon now. Get it right.

I have not heard that song in 15 fucking years i cant believe i still remember that!

That album is flawless. A very serious contender for best album of the 90's.

[Strat]

Are pearl jam considered music for jocks? what with thier baseball/basketball connections...or obsessions or whatever. They're more tied to sports than a lot of bands i think. They're always being played on sports channels apparently, or do they play loads of bands and i only hear about it when its pearl jam?

I'm in england where we don't have much baseball, basketball, jocks ...or pearl jam, so i might be talking out my ass.

East Coast jocks for sure. Tons of bro's at the shows.

I was a hockey player up through college and none of those idiots liked pearl jam. They sure loved poison and def leppard though....

Not sure what that means.

[Lament]

Led Zeppelin is classic rock for Libertarians.

[Strat]

little fish litlte fish swimming in the water
come back, man and bring me my daughter

Hey man, it's "Little fish, big fish."

C'mon now. Get it right.

I have not heard that song in 15 fucking years i cant believe i still remember that!

That album is flawless. A very serious contender for best album of the 90's.

90's alt rock classics... When the strange shit dominated the airwaves. Good ol' days.

[Lament]

Guys, none of us have asked flannelking if he found the peace of mind he was searching for in his original post. That's a pretty dick move on our parts.


flannelking, have you found your peace of mind?

[Oh, Jimmy]

Led Zeppelin and it's not close.

studio catalog-Zeppelin batted ridiculously close to 1.000 for their entire career, nothing that approaches the awfulness of Backspacer and much higher highs, showed that they could do about anything they set their mind to

live-PJ has been consistently awesome, but at their peak couldn't touch 68-73 Zeppelin

Vocals-this is the closest comparison and I can't in good conscience give this to Vedder despite writing better lyrics through the course of his career

Guitar-Page and it's a landslide of epic proportions

JPJ vs Ament/Boom-Ament can put up a good showing, but JPJ is the master of the fucking universe...JPJ could probably pull off cooler works on the keys than Boom when he was 7

Drums-Bonzo was better than every PJ drummer combined

[warehouse]

Also, I think pearl jam is better than led zeppelin

I was waiting for someone to come out and say this so I could agree with them (well, separate from the OP's lengthy assessments, which I'm not entirely sure weren't meant to mock us). In my heart I knew it'd be you, stip.

do u like the fixer too?

[warehouse]

Are pearl jam considered music for jocks?

yes

so all u fucking hipster nerds better get outa my way in the pit

[McParadigm]

Zeppelin and The Who are great examples of how transient and ultimately insignificant live music becomes, as time moves on. They were amazing live bands, yeah...but what does that even mean, now? Some great live albums? Bootlegs? DVDs? Five minutes of aural heaven in the form of My Generation on Leeds, and thank goodness for it, but it'll always be the same five minutes of aural heaven, now...just like a really good studio cut.

Fortunately, both bands made incredible studio albums that will outlive any of the remaining members. Live shows unquestionably help a band achieve whatever prominence and legend they have...but it's the records that matter, in the end.

[warehouse]

Zeppelin and The Who are great examples of how transient and ultimately insignificant live music becomes, as time moves on. They were amazing live bands, yeah...but what does that even mean, now? Some great live albums? Bootlegs? DVDs? Five minutes of aural heaven in the form of My Generation on Leeds, and thank goodness for it, but it'll always be the same five minutes of aural heaven, now...just like a really good studio cut.

Fortunately, both bands made incredible studio albums that will outlive any of the remaining members. Live shows unquestionably help a band achieve whatever prominence and legend they have...but it's the records that matter, in the end.

tell that to the grateful dead

[melonhead4]

I'll say in a live recording sense that I find Led Zeppelin very difficult to listen to (I did get to see Page & Plant on the Walking Into Clarksdale tour...so half counts?). They are amazing at playing songs like Good Times, Bad Times and Immigrant Song and Rock and Roll, but once you start getting into the violin bow solos and Plant's random screetch belting indiscrimately in songs like Dazed and Confused, the Lemon Song, or Whole Lotta Love - it quickly goes from epic to insufferable.

Pearl Jam puts on a great performance all around, but what really sets them apart, in my mind, is their ability to create an experience with their setlist sequencing (forget, for a moment, individual nitpicking about which b-sides you want to hear). Eddie Vedder, if for nothing else that you hear around here, does put a ton of effort into this aspect of the show on and nightly basis, at least from what I can tell.

P.S. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band in their prime from something like 1978-1981 cannot be touched by either of these bands...just straight up jaw dropping to the point where just hearing a rough recording of the show is better than actually being at most any other band's actual show.

Phish-1994-1998

[Lament]

Also, I think pearl jam is better than led zeppelin

I was waiting for someone to come out and say this so I could agree with them (well, separate from the OP's lengthy assessments, which I'm not entirely sure weren't meant to mock us). In my heart I knew it'd be you, stip.

do u like the fixer too?

I like it more than anything DMB has ever done. By a country mile.

[warehouse]

Also, I think pearl jam is better than led zeppelin

I was waiting for someone to come out and say this so I could agree with them (well, separate from the OP's lengthy assessments, which I'm not entirely sure weren't meant to mock us). In my heart I knew it'd be you, stip.

do u like the fixer too?

I like it more than anything DMB has ever done. By a country mile.

problem solved, you have a terrible taste in music. hell, my screen name alone is better than most pearl jam songs.

[Lament]

Also, I think pearl jam is better than led zeppelin

I was waiting for someone to come out and say this so I could agree with them (well, separate from the OP's lengthy assessments, which I'm not entirely sure weren't meant to mock us). In my heart I knew it'd be you, stip.

do u like the fixer too?

I like it more than anything DMB has ever done. By a country mile.

problem solved, you have a terrible taste in music. hell, my screen name alone is better than most pearl jam songs.

I think being told I have terrible taste in music by you is the single greatest endorsement of my tastes imaginable. Thank you, sir.

[Django Butterworth]

Ed also forgets lyrics regularly and I think PJ is guilty of the over the top live moments too.

Even Flow drum solo? Terrible. That seemingly endless "jam" in the middle of RVM? UGH.

And Boom single handledly ruined Crazy Mary for many years...

[McParadigm]

Zeppelin and The Who are great examples of how transient and ultimately insignificant live music becomes, as time moves on. They were amazing live bands, yeah...but what does that even mean, now? Some great live albums? Bootlegs? DVDs? Five minutes of aural heaven in the form of My Generation on Leeds, and thank goodness for it, but it'll always be the same five minutes of aural heaven, now...just like a really good studio cut.

Fortunately, both bands made incredible studio albums that will outlive any of the remaining members. Live shows unquestionably help a band achieve whatever prominence and legend they have...but it's the records that matter, in the end.

tell that to the grateful dead

Workingman's Dead. What a record.