washing machine wrote:
I don't disagree that his reaction was extreme, but calling it violent and aggressive feels a bit pearl clutchy.
What do you think the words violence and aggression mean
Jorge wrote:Regardless of whether you feel it was justified that was unquestionably an act of violent aggression. That's like the most dispassionate, dictionary-accurate description of what it was
I'll walk not calling it violent back a bit. You're right. That slap was de facto "violent." The language was aggressive. He probably should have been walked out of the building, but I'll stop way short of saying he should have been arrested or even that this was a toxic display of masculinity. I guess that's where the bee in my bonnet comes from. This behavior isn't some new thing. Like spike pointed out, I see it in the bar often (and we train our door staff to de-escalate it by walking people out of the building.) We see worse in baseball games, as I've pointed out. It's the attempt to load the event with deeper meaning of capital V violence, like the kind that escalates into true fisticuffs, that I think is overboard. A man insulted another man's wife, then got slapped by a husband who thought he was doing the right thing in the heat of the moment. Is that really so surprising? This is how the world works.
dimejinky99 wrote:I could destroy any ai chatbot you put in front of me. Easily.
yes rich fucks are also people, lets not forget that.
They keep saying that to us ¨ey i relate to you in everything! also in being a fucking violent dude!!, the only part i dont relate is in being poor and pay taxes¨
VinylGuy wrote:yes rich fucks are also people, lets not forget that.
*BZZT* wrong
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
washing machine wrote:I'll walk not calling it violent back a bit. You're right. That slap was de facto "violent." The language was aggressive. He probably should have been walked out of the building, but I'll stop way short of saying he should have been arrested or even that this was a toxic display of masculinity. I guess that's where the bee in my bonnet comes from. This behavior isn't some new thing. Like spike pointed out, I see it in the bar often (and we train our door staff to de-escalate it by walking people out of the building.) We see worse in baseball games, as I've pointed out. It's the attempt to load the event with deeper meaning of capital V violence, like the kind that escalates into true fisticuffs, that I think is overboard. A man insulted another man's wife, then got slapped by a husband who thought he was doing the right thing in the heat of the moment. Is that really so surprising? This is how the world works.
It's different. He's not just some guy in a bar. He's up there on his pedestal with his platitudes; "I am God's vessel for love" on the very night he SMACKS rock in the face. Hypocritical, ironic, hilarious.
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A small sect of ego driven insecure men at the bar feel like they need to defend their wife’s honor. A majority of well adjusted adults aren’t triggered by stupid petty shit.
Far too much context related considerations to compare this to a bar fight, encounter on the street, etc. And like others said, paired with his acceptance speech afterward, at least in this case makes it subject to absolute scrutiny.
And they say that a hero could save us
I'm not gonna stand here and wait
A small sect of ego driven insecure men at the bar feel like they need to defend their wife’s honor. A majority of well adjusted adults aren’t triggered by stupid petty shit.
or, while they may be triggered, they possess the capacity at self restraint, knowing their actions could invite bad consequences.
Look guys, I'm not saying Will Smith was the victim here. All I'm asking is how many married men would also react before thinking in a similar situation? It feels like Smith's response was somewhere in between "measured" and truly "aggressive," and I for one find that relatable. Though I personally would be too much of a wimp to even slap a man.
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dimejinky99 wrote:I could destroy any ai chatbot you put in front of me. Easily.
A small sect of ego driven insecure men at the bar feel like they need to defend their wife’s honor. A majority of well adjusted adults aren’t triggered by stupid petty shit.
his wife seemed to appreciate what he did.
will smith should have done this backstage, but i don't think his reaction was all that terrible. he could have put chris rock in this hospital if he wanted to. also, good on chris rock to take that slap like a boxing champion. he barely reacted.
