Meh, I expect better from the bart account.bada wrote:Just want you to know this was a worthy effort.bart wrote:I don’t think race should play a factor in this, I don’t have a racist bone in my body but I still can’t believe Will Smith slapped Kevin Hart like that.
Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?
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I’m not trying to argue tree__’s point. Don’t try and make it seem that I am.Ms Harmless wrote:no, the point (being made by Tree) was "Chris Rock was trying to be nice actually"wease wrote:Neither is Will Smith, but that wasn’t really the point.Ms Harmless wrote:Dean Martin wasn't a great guywease wrote:The Fresh Prince could never have handled being at a Dean Martin Roast.
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I am not going to rehash Black women's lived experience regarding their hair to you (it's not my place), but I can stand by the stuff I've come across over time; beyond that, if your interest is piqued, I can suggest some of them to follow on your socials; they might be able to demystify some of your confusiontree_ wrote:Seems that way to me, and I explained how I got there. You can't even explain how that was an insult.Ms Harmless wrote:no, the point (being made by Tree) was "Chris Rock was trying to be nice actually"wease wrote:Neither is Will Smith, but that wasn’t really the point.Ms Harmless wrote:Dean Martin wasn't a great guywease wrote:The Fresh Prince could never have handled being at a Dean Martin Roast.
beyond that, I have explained that the joke had racial, misogynistic and ableist components
you've given me "but she's hot lol"
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I don't think you get to do a "no true conservative" take here when the editor of Breitbart held a position in the last Republican administration. "Intellectual thought" is doing a lot of heavy lifting to try to draw an arbitrary line of demarcation between the people you are happy to share a constituency with and those that you would rather not, but as long as "conservative" still describes people who vote for the Republican party, more or less, there are a lot of racist elements in US conservative thought.washing machine wrote:Ah. See there's the problem right there.Mickey wrote:Yeah it doesn't surprise me at all, Breitbart used to have an entire section of their page devoted to "black on black crime," macphisto regularly makes these kinds of arguments--the fact that you didn't anticipate this suggests its own form of cherry-picking.Ms Harmless wrote:it's one I've seen time and time againwashing machine wrote:That surprises me.wease wrote:It’s one I heard on the radio at lunch.washing machine wrote:Is that a real conservative take that you've seen on the internet, wease? Really?
Brietbart. Macphisto. Not exactly good-faith representations of the party of conservative intellectual thought.
I believe you're conflating conservatism with racism. Shocking, I tell ya.
I posted three published articles from right of center sources when this question was asked a few pages ago and they got more or less ignored because they are an "exception" somehow.
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It was a jay leno joke at best if I’m being honest with myselfRob wrote:Meh, I expect better from the bart account.bada wrote:Just want you to know this was a worthy effort.bart wrote:I don’t think race should play a factor in this, I don’t have a racist bone in my body but I still can’t believe Will Smith slapped Kevin Hart like that.
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what are these meant to prove to mewashing machine wrote:First five conservative tweets I come across on my feed, warts and all:Ms Harmless wrote:oh a lot of right wingers would like nothing more than to not be racist; a lot of them talk a lot about that... a lot
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I apologize.Rob wrote:Meh, I expect better from the bart account.bada wrote:Just want you to know this was a worthy effort.bart wrote:I don’t think race should play a factor in this, I don’t have a racist bone in my body but I still can’t believe Will Smith slapped Kevin Hart like that.
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The conservative response to The Slap is not a knee-jerk racist one like a few of you are suggesting?Ms Harmless wrote:what are these meant to prove to mewashing machine wrote:First five conservative tweets I come across on my feed, warts and all:Ms Harmless wrote:oh a lot of right wingers would like nothing more than to not be racist; a lot of them talk a lot about that... a lot
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I went to Coleman Hughes' account because he's Black so he's really the opinion I care about of the ones there
his next tweet is "both are wrong, obviously", which is not my view
his next tweet is "both are wrong, obviously", which is not my view
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It is my dream and my wish that the vile beast within the current republican party leaves its host and dies a slow death on a billionaire's island somewhere south of hades.Mickey wrote:I don't think you get to do a "no true conservative" take here when the editor of Breitbart held a position in the last Republican administration. "Intellectual thought" is doing a lot of heavy lifting to try to draw an arbitrary line of demarcation between the people you are happy to share a constituency with and those that you would rather not, but as long as "conservative" still describes people who vote for the Republican party, more or less, there are a lot of racist elements in US conservative thought.washing machine wrote:Ah. See there's the problem right there.Mickey wrote:Yeah it doesn't surprise me at all, Breitbart used to have an entire section of their page devoted to "black on black crime," macphisto regularly makes these kinds of arguments--the fact that you didn't anticipate this suggests its own form of cherry-picking.Ms Harmless wrote:it's one I've seen time and time againwashing machine wrote:That surprises me.wease wrote:It’s one I heard on the radio at lunch.washing machine wrote:Is that a real conservative take that you've seen on the internet, wease? Really?
Brietbart. Macphisto. Not exactly good-faith representations of the party of conservative intellectual thought.
I believe you're conflating conservatism with racism. Shocking, I tell ya.
I posted three published articles from right of center sources when this question was asked a few pages ago and they got more or less ignored because they are an "exception" somehow.
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you don't get to point to a Black person and say "see? not racist"; he doesn't count
that said, I disagree with a lot of those takes, and when I get more context, I see more of the old familiar conservative shit I'm used to
that said, I disagree with a lot of those takes, and when I get more context, I see more of the old familiar conservative shit I'm used to
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I would think black people's views are as diverse as anyone else's.
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also, I didn't bring "knee jerk" racism into this; a lot of this is extremely deeply considered and thickly veiled in polite rhetoric; anything but "knee jerk"
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well yeahRob wrote:I would think black people's views are as diverse as anyone else's.
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you're right that Black people aren't a monolithRob wrote:I would think black people's views are as diverse as anyone else's.
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Ok good luck with that.washing machine wrote:It is my dream and my wish that the vile beast within the current republican party leaves its host and dies a slow death on a billionaire's island somewhere south of hades.Mickey wrote:I don't think you get to do a "no true conservative" take here when the editor of Breitbart held a position in the last Republican administration. "Intellectual thought" is doing a lot of heavy lifting to try to draw an arbitrary line of demarcation between the people you are happy to share a constituency with and those that you would rather not, but as long as "conservative" still describes people who vote for the Republican party, more or less, there are a lot of racist elements in US conservative thought.washing machine wrote:Ah. See there's the problem right there.Mickey wrote:Yeah it doesn't surprise me at all, Breitbart used to have an entire section of their page devoted to "black on black crime," macphisto regularly makes these kinds of arguments--the fact that you didn't anticipate this suggests its own form of cherry-picking.Ms Harmless wrote:it's one I've seen time and time againwashing machine wrote:That surprises me.wease wrote:It’s one I heard on the radio at lunch.washing machine wrote:Is that a real conservative take that you've seen on the internet, wease? Really?
Brietbart. Macphisto. Not exactly good-faith representations of the party of conservative intellectual thought.
I believe you're conflating conservatism with racism. Shocking, I tell ya.
I posted three published articles from right of center sources when this question was asked a few pages ago and they got more or less ignored because they are an "exception" somehow.
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Except The RockMs Harmless wrote:you're right that Black people aren't a monolithRob wrote:I would think black people's views are as diverse as anyone else's.
Nihilist lives don't matter
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lol i know right?Mickey wrote:Ok good luck with that.washing machine wrote:It is my dream and my wish that the vile beast within the current republican party leaves its host and dies a slow death on a billionaire's island somewhere south of hades.Mickey wrote:I don't think you get to do a "no true conservative" take here when the editor of Breitbart held a position in the last Republican administration. "Intellectual thought" is doing a lot of heavy lifting to try to draw an arbitrary line of demarcation between the people you are happy to share a constituency with and those that you would rather not, but as long as "conservative" still describes people who vote for the Republican party, more or less, there are a lot of racist elements in US conservative thought.washing machine wrote:Ah. See there's the problem right there.Mickey wrote:Yeah it doesn't surprise me at all, Breitbart used to have an entire section of their page devoted to "black on black crime," macphisto regularly makes these kinds of arguments--the fact that you didn't anticipate this suggests its own form of cherry-picking.Ms Harmless wrote:it's one I've seen time and time againwashing machine wrote:That surprises me.wease wrote:It’s one I heard on the radio at lunch.washing machine wrote:Is that a real conservative take that you've seen on the internet, wease? Really?
Brietbart. Macphisto. Not exactly good-faith representations of the party of conservative intellectual thought.
I believe you're conflating conservatism with racism. Shocking, I tell ya.
I posted three published articles from right of center sources when this question was asked a few pages ago and they got more or less ignored because they are an "exception" somehow.
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Re: Are you not going to watch the Oscars this year?
His joke I reiterate was you look like you’re going to play G.I. Jane in a G.I. Jane sequel. What are G.I. Jane’s qualities? Is comparing somebody to G.I. Jane an insult in and of itself? This is my thought process. I do not know the history of black women and hair. I did not consider this when reading into Chris rocks joke because it is not a deep or profound joke. It is actually very simple and because I trust that Chris Rock is not a racist asshole trying to put down black women at the Oscars I assumeIt is irrelevant. But I will look into the black women and hair thing because now I am curious.Ms Harmless wrote:I am not going to rehash Black women's lived experience regarding their hair to you (it's not my place), but I can stand by the stuff I've come across over time; beyond that, if your interest is piqued, I can suggest some of them to follow on your socials; they might be able to demystify some of your confusiontree_ wrote:Seems that way to me, and I explained how I got there. You can't even explain how that was an insult.Ms Harmless wrote:no, the point (being made by Tree) was "Chris Rock was trying to be nice actually"wease wrote:Neither is Will Smith, but that wasn’t really the point.Ms Harmless wrote:Dean Martin wasn't a great guywease wrote:The Fresh Prince could never have handled being at a Dean Martin Roast.
beyond that, I have explained that the joke had racial, misogynistic and ableist components
you've given me "but she's hot lol"
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Dude... I've been trying to somewhat agree with you but at some point you'll have to concede it was about her hair.tree_ wrote:His joke I reiterate was you look like you’re going to play G.I. Jane in a G.I. Jane sequel. What are G.I. Jane’s qualities? Is comparing somebody to G.I. Jane an insult in and of itself? This is my thought process. I do not know the history of black women and hair. I did not consider this when reading into Chris rocks joke because it is not a deep or profound joke. It is actually very simple and because I trust that Chris Rock is not a racist asshole trying to put down black women at the Oscars I assumeIt is irrelevant. But I will look into the black women and hair thing because now I am curious.Ms Harmless wrote:I am not going to rehash Black women's lived experience regarding their hair to you (it's not my place), but I can stand by the stuff I've come across over time; beyond that, if your interest is piqued, I can suggest some of them to follow on your socials; they might be able to demystify some of your confusiontree_ wrote:Seems that way to me, and I explained how I got there. You can't even explain how that was an insult.Ms Harmless wrote:no, the point (being made by Tree) was "Chris Rock was trying to be nice actually"wease wrote:Neither is Will Smith, but that wasn’t really the point.Ms Harmless wrote:Dean Martin wasn't a great guywease wrote:The Fresh Prince could never have handled being at a Dean Martin Roast.
beyond that, I have explained that the joke had racial, misogynistic and ableist components
you've given me "but she's hot lol"