Mickey wrote:A lot of functioning adults are saying "I would have stormed the stage, approached famous comedian Chris Rock, slapped him on live TV, and then cried about it during my Best Actor acceptance speech?" Weird.
its about having the same visceral reaction to seeing your wife look the way his wife looked. seeing pain in your wife's eyes and wanting to do something about it. its doesnt matter where you are or what you are doing when you feel something like that. thats what is relatable.
So his actions are correct?
How about he walked on stage and said something like:
"Hey man that's out of line, let me tell you why. <cue diatribe about Alopecia, history of belittling black women about appearance, black hair and identity etc"
That would have been an adult reaction. That would have been the immense thing to do and today he'd be a hero, Chris Rock would have been put in his place (which wasn't needed) and he probably would have gotten the best head job from his wife that he'd ever had.
Instead we see another juvenile adult sized 8 year old slapping and yelling.
Ms Harmless wrote:I think a LOT of "functioning adults" without Hollywood privilege are saying "I would have done that too"
Sure, and I imagine they would do it even with the knowledge that they'd be (rightfully) mocked and criticized for their childish outburst, but the tragedy is they would probably have to face real consequences unlike Will
you're right, that's true; but that has zero bearing on whether the act itself was justified or not; my answer is not "Will should be punished!", my answer is that NOBODY who would do what he did should be penalised for it
Ms Harmless wrote:I think a LOT of "functioning adults" without Hollywood privilege are saying "I would have done that too"
Sure, and I imagine they would do it even with the knowledge that they'd be (rightfully) mocked and criticized for their childish outburst, but the tragedy is they would probably have to face real consequences unlike Will
you're right, that's true; but that has zero bearing on whether the act itself was justified or not; my answer is not "Will should be punished!", my answer is that NOBODY who would do what he did should be penalised for it
Mickey wrote:A lot of functioning adults are saying "I would have stormed the stage, approached famous comedian Chris Rock, slapped him on live TV, and then cried about it during my Best Actor acceptance speech?" Weird.
its about having the same visceral reaction to seeing your wife look the way his wife looked. seeing pain in your wife's eyes and wanting to do something about it. its doesnt matter where you are or what you are doing when you feel something like that. thats what is relatable.
So his actions are correct?
How about he walked on stage and said something like:
"Hey man that's out of line, let me tell you why. <cue diatribe about Alopecia, history of belittling black women about appearance, black hair and identity etc"
That would have been an adult reaction. That would have been the immense thing to do and today he'd be a hero, Chris Rock would have been put in his place (which wasn't needed) and he probably would have gotten the best head job from his wife that he'd ever had.
Instead we see another juvenile adult sized 8 year old slapping and yelling.
Ms Harmless wrote:I think a LOT of "functioning adults" without Hollywood privilege are saying "I would have done that too"
Sure, and I imagine they would do it even with the knowledge that they'd be (rightfully) mocked and criticized for their childish outburst, but the tragedy is they would probably have to face real consequences unlike Will
you're right, that's true; but that has zero bearing on whether the act itself was justified or not; my answer is not "Will should be punished!", my answer is that NOBODY who would do what he did should be penalised for it
You're wrong and I'm glad you're wrong
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Ms Harmless wrote:I think a LOT of "functioning adults" without Hollywood privilege are saying "I would have done that too"
Sure, and I imagine they would do it even with the knowledge that they'd be (rightfully) mocked and criticized for their childish outburst, but the tragedy is they would probably have to face real consequences unlike Will
you're right, that's true; but that has zero bearing on whether the act itself was justified or not; my answer is not "Will should be punished!", my answer is that NOBODY who would do what he did should be penalised for it
What?
you can read
more comedians who insult people below them should get hit; it would amuse me greatly, as long as we all agree that all of this is meaningless entertainment anyway
Mickey wrote:A lot of functioning adults are saying "I would have stormed the stage, approached famous comedian Chris Rock, slapped him on live TV, and then cried about it during my Best Actor acceptance speech?" Weird.
its about having the same visceral reaction to seeing your wife look the way his wife looked. seeing pain in your wife's eyes and wanting to do something about it. its doesnt matter where you are or what you are doing when you feel something like that. thats what is relatable.
So his actions are correct?
How about he walked on stage and said something like:
"Hey man that's out of line, let me tell you why. <cue diatribe about Alopecia, history of belittling black women about appearance, black hair and identity etc"
That would have been an adult reaction. That would have been the immense thing to do and today he'd be a hero, Chris Rock would have been put in his place (which wasn't needed) and he probably would have gotten the best head job from his wife that he'd ever had.
Instead we see another juvenile adult sized 8 year old slapping and yelling.
he certainly could have handled it a number of different ways that wouldn't make him look like a bully, but the feeling of seeing your wife hurt and wanting to do something about it is completely relatable. even for the most anti-confrontational person, you have to understand how he felt when he looked at his wife. and for people who grew up around actual violence, what happened last night was just a bitch slap. i wouldnt even call it an attack
In Harmless's defense, violence is acceptable, but I differ from his fascist pro-active violence and think that violence is only acceptable when violently aggressed upon.
BurtReynolds wrote:Tree was wrong that Rock handled it well. The proper response was running up behind him as he's walking away and choking him out on stage.