Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

[Strat]

I still don’t see how this is a black issue

nobody is surprised by this

Most of the conversations I've read don't mention race. I get that black women have faced discrimination over their hairstyles and whatnot, but I do not see how this joke (lame or not) came from a place of racism.

yt people slyly make it about themselves by pretending this is a race issue. Its not.

[Ms Harmless]

I still don’t see how this is a black issue

nobody is surprised by this

Most of the conversations I've read don't mention race. I get that black women have faced discrimination over their hairstyles and whatnot, but I do not see how this joke (lame or not) came from a place of racism.

again, I'm not surprised by any of this either; I spent most of my life around "nothing about race"

So is your defense that white guys can't ever see racism? Many of us live in America, and there's plenty of it here. I see it all the time. Just not here. Your argument is framed as being sympathetic to minorities, but coming across as anger towards white guys.

"anger towards white guys"? really?

[Ms Harmless]

I still don’t see how this is a black issue

nobody is surprised by this

Most of the conversations I've read don't mention race. I get that black women have faced discrimination over their hairstyles and whatnot, but I do not see how this joke (lame or not) came from a place of racism.

yt people slyly make it about themselves by pretending this is a race issue. Its not.

incredible intellectual gymnastics

[Strat]

I still don’t see how this is a black issue

nobody is surprised by this

Most of the conversations I've read don't mention race. I get that black women have faced discrimination over their hairstyles and whatnot, but I do not see how this joke (lame or not) came from a place of racism.

yt people slyly make it about themselves by pretending this is a race issue. Its not.

incredible intellectual gymnastics

You certainly are doing that, yes.

[Mickey]

I don't think Smith, as a professional actor, writing an official letter of apology for disrupting a celebrity event, should be used as a gotcha to validate anyone's individual sense of morality; the letter was an occupational expectation that he fulfilled

and it's funny to see the number of white people who normally don't think any celebrity owes accountability or apology letters to their audience, suddenly congratulating him on making them look right

Great news: the position that I publicly, vocally, and sentimentally committed to has not been altered by additional evidence.

[Ms Harmless]

If karma is real, harmless will one day be arrested for slapping some poor white amateur comedian on a street corner trying to make a buck, casually roasting folks

I'm not gonna slap any poor people on sidewalks lol

[Strat]

I ask you, have any of the victims in this incident mentioned anything about race? no. They haven't.

[Mickey]

If karma is real, harmless will one day be arrested for slapping some poor white amateur comedian on a street corner trying to make a buck, casually roasting folks

I'm not gonna slap any poor people on sidewalks lol

Why is that?

[The Argonaut]

This is America. Everything is about race, like it or not.

But this isn't about race. Everyone has their personal interests and lenses that they read things through, and for some people that's race. I think they're wrong in this instance

[Ms Harmless]

I don't think Smith, as a professional actor, writing an official letter of apology for disrupting a celebrity event, should be used as a gotcha to validate anyone's individual sense of morality; the letter was an occupational expectation that he fulfilled

and it's funny to see the number of white people who normally don't think any celebrity owes accountability or apology letters to their audience, suddenly congratulating him on making them look right

Great news: the position that I publicly, vocally, and sentimentally committed to has not been altered by additional evidence.

you seem obsessed by the fact that I haven't changed my mind for some reason

[The Argonaut]

And after all, you're my wonderwallll

[Ms Harmless]

If karma is real, harmless will one day be arrested for slapping some poor white amateur comedian on a street corner trying to make a buck, casually roasting folks

I'm not gonna slap any poor people on sidewalks lol

Why is that?

what answer would you like to this? tell me and I'll give it to you

[Mickey]

I don't think Smith, as a professional actor, writing an official letter of apology for disrupting a celebrity event, should be used as a gotcha to validate anyone's individual sense of morality; the letter was an occupational expectation that he fulfilled

and it's funny to see the number of white people who normally don't think any celebrity owes accountability or apology letters to their audience, suddenly congratulating him on making them look right

Great news: the position that I publicly, vocally, and sentimentally committed to has not been altered by additional evidence.

you seem obsessed by the fact that I haven't changed my mind for some reason

I remember documenting exactly how your position has shifted earlier in this thread. But I don't think you're wrong that this apology is not a transparent document, exactly.

[The Argonaut]

Mickey's lens which he reads everything through is is "class". Just say something mean about rich people and he'll understand

[Ms Harmless]

I ask you, have any of the victims in this incident mentioned anything about race? no. They haven't.

yes

Jada has commented on stigma against Black hair in at least one article I've read; she has talked about growing up as a child with the stigma as well as having to exist with it in the professional world

[Ms Harmless]

Mickey's lens which he reads everything through is is "class". Just say something mean about rich people and he'll understand

yep, he's a class reductionist

[The Argonaut]

He needs to learn to think intersectionally

[Rob]

Mickey's lens which he reads everything through is is "class". Just say something mean about rich people and he'll understand

yep, he's a class reductionist

Common (and better) ideology than what we got during/after the Reagan era.

[Ms Harmless]

I don't think Smith, as a professional actor, writing an official letter of apology for disrupting a celebrity event, should be used as a gotcha to validate anyone's individual sense of morality; the letter was an occupational expectation that he fulfilled

and it's funny to see the number of white people who normally don't think any celebrity owes accountability or apology letters to their audience, suddenly congratulating him on making them look right

Great news: the position that I publicly, vocally, and sentimentally committed to has not been altered by additional evidence.

you seem obsessed by the fact that I haven't changed my mind for some reason

I remember documenting exactly how your position has shifted earlier in this thread. But I don't think you're wrong that this apology is not a transparent document, exactly.

what were your findings during your documentation?

[Jorge]

Maybe what Joe meant was "I trust you folks can keep this thread poppin' without my help"