Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
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Ms Harmless wrote:I just don't wait for organisational committees to tell me what things are about
are you seeing this happen here or
elsewhere?
I felt it was implied in the fact that Jada has talked about issues of race and hair in articles since it happened, but her feelings don't matter and we're waiting for "additional evidence"; it's not about race until... I don't even know
Let's just say... to her, based on her apparent statement(s), it had racial elements, but to Chris Rock and everyone else, it might not have.
in that case, impact trumps intent; I don't care that nobody "meant" anything, I care about what happened
See, you're mistaking one person's perspective for objective reality.
I'm prioritising a victim's perspective over Tree's reality
a majority isn't "in the right" about anything just because it's a majority; I'm regularly in rooms where I am the only wheelchair user, and thus I am regularly in rooms where I'm the only person who isn't thick as pig shit about disabled access
I'm not saying my personal reality trumps anyone's. I'm actually saying everyone has their own perspective, and one doesn't outweigh the others just because they happen to be feeling pain or discomfort or anything, therefore if someone doesn't happen to be acknowledging your personal truth in a moment, it doesn't mean they are actively trying to harm you. It may just be a lack of awareness, a misunderstanding on your part.
right, but if someone is repeatedly hurting me, I don't care if it was repeatedly an accident; a pattern is a pattern and my only priority is to end it
Can you believe Howard Dean didn't get to be president because he yelled?
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
love how you’re erasing assault against a black man on television!
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
My priority is to end the narrative that I am a class reductionist. Slaps incoming.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Ms Harmless wrote:I just don't wait for organisational committees to tell me what things are about
are you seeing this happen here or
elsewhere?
I felt it was implied in the fact that Jada has talked about issues of race and hair in articles since it happened, but her feelings don't matter and we're waiting for "additional evidence"; it's not about race until... I don't even know
Let's just say... to her, based on her apparent statement(s), it had racial elements, but to Chris Rock and everyone else, it might not have.
in that case, impact trumps intent; I don't care that nobody "meant" anything, I care about what happened
See, you're mistaking one person's perspective for objective reality.
I'm prioritising a victim's perspective over Tree's reality
a majority isn't "in the right" about anything just because it's a majority; I'm regularly in rooms where I am the only wheelchair user, and thus I am regularly in rooms where I'm the only person who isn't thick as pig shit about disabled access
I'm not saying my personal reality trumps anyone's. I'm actually saying everyone has their own perspective, and one doesn't outweigh the others just because they happen to be feeling pain or discomfort or anything, therefore if someone doesn't happen to be acknowledging your personal truth in a moment, it doesn't mean they are actively trying to harm you. It may just be a lack of awareness, a misunderstanding on your part.
right, but if someone is repeatedly hurting me, I don't care if it was repeatedly an accident; a pattern is a pattern and my only priority is to end it
Will Smith ended his
But surely you know that if intentions are pure then violence is absolutely unjustified
Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
love how you’re erasing assault against a black man on television!
Ms Harmless wrote:I just don't wait for organisational committees to tell me what things are about
are you seeing this happen here or
elsewhere?
I felt it was implied in the fact that Jada has talked about issues of race and hair in articles since it happened, but her feelings don't matter and we're waiting for "additional evidence"; it's not about race until... I don't even know
Let's just say... to her, based on her apparent statement(s), it had racial elements, but to Chris Rock and everyone else, it might not have.
in that case, impact trumps intent; I don't care that nobody "meant" anything, I care about what happened
See, you're mistaking one person's perspective for objective reality.
I'm prioritising a victim's perspective over Tree's reality
a majority isn't "in the right" about anything just because it's a majority; I'm regularly in rooms where I am the only wheelchair user, and thus I am regularly in rooms where I'm the only person who isn't thick as pig shit about disabled access
I'm not saying my personal reality trumps anyone's. I'm actually saying everyone has their own perspective, and one doesn't outweigh the others just because they happen to be feeling pain or discomfort or anything, therefore if someone doesn't happen to be acknowledging your personal truth in a moment, it doesn't mean they are actively trying to harm you. It may just be a lack of awareness, a misunderstanding on your part.
right, but if someone is repeatedly hurting me, I don't care if it was repeatedly an accident; a pattern is a pattern and my only priority is to end it
Will Smith ended his
But surely you know that if intentions are pure then violence is absolutely unjustified
I want to say that only a low-IQ barely literate mouth-breather would read my posts and think "class reductionist" but then each of those insults would imbricate me in a number of further dramas, which could result in slaps being both given and received, a situation I think it best we all avoid.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Ms Harmless wrote:I just don't wait for organisational committees to tell me what things are about
are you seeing this happen here or
elsewhere?
I felt it was implied in the fact that Jada has talked about issues of race and hair in articles since it happened, but her feelings don't matter and we're waiting for "additional evidence"; it's not about race until... I don't even know
Let's just say... to her, based on her apparent statement(s), it had racial elements, but to Chris Rock and everyone else, it might not have.
in that case, impact trumps intent; I don't care that nobody "meant" anything, I care about what happened
See, you're mistaking one person's perspective for objective reality.
I'm prioritising a victim's perspective over Tree's reality
a majority isn't "in the right" about anything just because it's a majority; I'm regularly in rooms where I am the only wheelchair user, and thus I am regularly in rooms where I'm the only person who isn't thick as pig shit about disabled access
I'm not saying my personal reality trumps anyone's. I'm actually saying everyone has their own perspective, and one doesn't outweigh the others just because they happen to be feeling pain or discomfort or anything, therefore if someone doesn't happen to be acknowledging your personal truth in a moment, it doesn't mean they are actively trying to harm you. It may just be a lack of awareness, a misunderstanding on your part.
right, but if someone is repeatedly hurting me, I don't care if it was repeatedly an accident; a pattern is a pattern and my only priority is to end it
Will Smith ended his
But surely you know that if intentions are pure then violence is absolutely unjustified
Mickey wrote:I want to say that only a low-IQ barely literate mouth-breather would read my posts and think "class reductionist" but then each of those insults would imbricate me in a number of further dramas, which could result in slaps being both given and received, a situation I think it best we all avoid.
Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
love how you’re erasing assault against a black man on television!
by a black man!!!!!
normalizing the assault & oppression of black men, by thomas jefferson or clarence thomas, is not ok. never took you for a reactionary
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
Mickey wrote:I want to say that only a low-IQ barely literate mouth-breather would read my posts and think "class reductionist" but then each of those insults would imbricate me in a number of further dramas, which could result in slaps being both given and received, a situation I think it best we all avoid.
You're incapable of thinking intersectionally
I'm going to intersect your face with my open palm you little lib fuck.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
also salivating over conflict between two black men & the kind of paternalism at play is low-key racist and high-key sexist
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
love how you’re erasing assault against a black man on television!
by a black man!!!!!
normalizing the assault & oppression of black men, by thomas jefferson or clarence thomas, is not ok. never took you for a reactionary
I honestly don't think Will smacking Chris Rock is "normalizing the oppression of Black men" but OK
Malloy wrote:also salivating over conflict between two black men & the kind of paternalism at play is low-key racist and high-key sexist
To say nothing of the problematic implications of suggesting that black American culture has different standards of conflict resolution.
VinylGuy wrote:its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Malloy wrote:normalizing violence against a black man in a room full of white people post-george floyd is not ok, and seems pretty inconsistent w my vague notions of your politics, harmless
we're not talking about white violence against Black men
love how Will Smith's Blackness *and* Jada's Blackness is being erased here to defend a guy whose LOLs we crave
love how you’re erasing assault against a black man on television!
by a black man!!!!!
normalizing the assault & oppression of black men, by thomas jefferson or clarence thomas, is not ok. never took you for a reactionary
I honestly don't think Will smacking Chris Rock is "normalizing the oppression of Black men" but OK
flatten the complex of racial dynamics by invoking celebrity. now who is the class reductionist
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
