Who's better band and/or live band Pearl Jam or Zeppelin?

[warehouse]

I listened to warehouse once on the basis of your screen name.

It was fine. I don't remember much about it though. I may go youtube it right now

once?...ONCE?!?! do yourself a favor and listen to it more often

[malice]

your usage of "u" does tend to drag on your posting style though

yeah, im on a message board, not writing legal briefs.

kthx, bye grl!!

this was actually funny, good work sista

i have the odd moment or two of inspiration. but I was actually hoping you'd attack my age in your next post :/

[stip]

I'm listening to it now It's pretty good, but like so much of his stuff I just can't find the 'song' here, even though most of the individual parts I like. that's always been my issue with him. I like DMB quite a bit for about 30 seconds and then wonder why I still need to listen. And it's not that I think it all sounds the same. I just don't know why I'm supposed to be listening.

[stip]

this song could be two minutes shorter.

[warehouse]

this song could be two minutes shorter.

*longer

[BurtReynolds]

the most fun I ever had at a live show was a rockabilly band in Austin. can't remember their name, but they were definitely objectively better than the Beatles, led zep, and pearl jam.

[Jorge]

All this time, I thought I was writing legal briefs.

[Tuolumne]

I am on a Pearl Jam message board. I have been seeing them live since 1995.

I never saw Led Zeppelin.

Anyone who thinks Pearl Jam comes remotely close to touching Led Zeppelin, even on a bad day, is tripping balls.

Pearl Jam is great. One of the best live bands. Zeppelin were inhuman gods with the best rock drummer who ever lived.

PJ gets closer to The Who, but they can't quite match them, either.

This thread is like comparing apples to the Hope Diamond.

This is eating up alot of BS the baby boomers threw at you. Led Zeppelin were a great band and they deserve credit for that. They are not gods beyond question and reproach. Aside from being a great band, they are also blatant thieves of the blues. Every southern black blues player's decendants should be collecting royalties off many of their hits, especially their earlier ones, which allowed them to build their career to the point they could really make a creative dent with Physical Graffiti and the like.

They also had bad nights, and there were gigs where Page was too drunk to play or even stand up. There was a night in Alpine Valley a former co-worker told me where they had to stop the gig a few songs in and they had to quit the show. These days some bands almost derail their careers over gigs like that b/c message boards and Twitter feeds spread the word. There were nights when Plant's voice was raspy and shot. And those nights would have become the rule rather than the exception if Bonham hadn't irresponsibily OD'd (fuck rock legend and mythology here, he fucked up royally rather than create more mystique with his death). Led Zeppelin were a fantastic, HUMAN band who had creative highs and lows (the lows were borderline aping, well fuck borderline they were straight up copyright infringement), good gigs and bad gigs, good studio takes and bad mixes, they had all of that shit. We just don't have them under a microscope at every turn like we do with PJ. And fuck Elvis too.

[malice]

I didn't actually think this thread could get any sillier

[E.H. Ruddock]

And for the record, I probably like PJ by a small margin, even though Led Zeppelin has been in my life way longer than PJ. That and Zeppelin's version of When the Levee Breaks is one of the greatest songs ever.

[BurtReynolds]

I am on a Pearl Jam message board. I have been seeing them live since 1995.

I never saw Led Zeppelin.

Anyone who thinks Pearl Jam comes remotely close to touching Led Zeppelin, even on a bad day, is tripping balls.

Pearl Jam is great. One of the best live bands. Zeppelin were inhuman gods with the best rock drummer who ever lived.

PJ gets closer to The Who, but they can't quite match them, either.

This thread is like comparing apples to the Hope Diamond.

This is eating up alot of BS the baby boomers threw at you. Led Zeppelin were a great band and they deserve credit for that. They are not gods beyond question and reproach. Aside from being a great band, they are also blatant thieves of the blues. Every southern black blues player's decendants should be collecting royalties off many of their hits, especially their earlier ones, which allowed them to build their career to the point they could really make a creative dent with Physical Graffiti and the like.

They also had bad nights, and there were gigs where Page was too drunk to play or even stand up. There was a night in Alpine Valley a former co-worker told me where they had to stop the gig a few songs in and they had to quit the show. These days some bands almost derail their careers over gigs like that b/c message boards and Twitter feeds spread the word. There were nights when Plant's voice was raspy and shot. And those nights would have become the rule rather than the exception if Bonham hadn't irresponsibily OD'd (fuck rock legend and mythology here, he fucked up royally rather than create more mystique with his death). Led Zeppelin were a fantastic, HUMAN band who had creative highs and lows (the lows were borderline aping, well fuck borderline they were straight up copyright infringement), good gigs and bad gigs, good studio takes and bad mixes, they had all of that shit. We just don't have them under a microscope at every turn like we do with PJ. And fuck Elvis too.

please... just stop.. I can't... I can't I just can't handle it... its too much. stop doing this to me!

[BurtReynolds]

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[malice]

welp, there goes my screen

[Oh, Jimmy]

I am on a Pearl Jam message board. I have been seeing them live since 1995.

I never saw Led Zeppelin.

Anyone who thinks Pearl Jam comes remotely close to touching Led Zeppelin, even on a bad day, is tripping balls.

Pearl Jam is great. One of the best live bands. Zeppelin were inhuman gods with the best rock drummer who ever lived.

PJ gets closer to The Who, but they can't quite match them, either.

This thread is like comparing apples to the Hope Diamond.

This is eating up alot of BS the baby boomers threw at you. Led Zeppelin were a great band and they deserve credit for that. They are not gods beyond question and reproach. Aside from being a great band, they are also blatant thieves of the blues. Every southern black blues player's decendants should be collecting royalties off many of their hits, especially their earlier ones, which allowed them to build their career to the point they could really make a creative dent with Physical Graffiti and the like.

They also had bad nights, and there were gigs where Page was too drunk to play or even stand up. There was a night in Alpine Valley a former co-worker told me where they had to stop the gig a few songs in and they had to quit the show. These days some bands almost derail their careers over gigs like that b/c message boards and Twitter feeds spread the word. There were nights when Plant's voice was raspy and shot. And those nights would have become the rule rather than the exception if Bonham hadn't irresponsibily OD'd (fuck rock legend and mythology here, he fucked up royally rather than create more mystique with his death). Led Zeppelin were a fantastic, HUMAN band who had creative highs and lows (the lows were borderline aping, well fuck borderline they were straight up copyright infringement), good gigs and bad gigs, good studio takes and bad mixes, they had all of that shit. We just don't have them under a microscope at every turn like we do with PJ. And fuck Elvis too.

I'll take "too drunk to play" over some of the stuff that PJ passes off.

Is PJ really under the microscope much more than Zeppelin? Zeppelin was the biggest band, so there were plenty of people pushing the negative shit. PJ basically has a bunch of ass kissing fans that gloss over their live sloppiness. I've listened to alot of Zeppelin boots and there was some sloppiness, but I've never heard the trainwrecks that I have on PJ boots.

If you like PJ more, fine. Just don't pretend like they belong in the same conversations about great bands that Zeppelin does.

[BurtReynolds]

welp, there goes my screen

personally, I consider it a marked improvement.

[malice]

welp, there goes my screen

personally, I consider it a marked improvement.

I can't disagree

[stip]

I am on a Pearl Jam message board. I have been seeing them live since 1995.

I never saw Led Zeppelin.

Anyone who thinks Pearl Jam comes remotely close to touching Led Zeppelin, even on a bad day, is tripping balls.

Pearl Jam is great. One of the best live bands. Zeppelin were inhuman gods with the best rock drummer who ever lived.

PJ gets closer to The Who, but they can't quite match them, either.

This thread is like comparing apples to the Hope Diamond.

This is eating up alot of BS the baby boomers threw at you. Led Zeppelin were a great band and they deserve credit for that. They are not gods beyond question and reproach. Aside from being a great band, they are also blatant thieves of the blues. Every southern black blues player's decendants should be collecting royalties off many of their hits, especially their earlier ones, which allowed them to build their career to the point they could really make a creative dent with Physical Graffiti and the like.

They also had bad nights, and there were gigs where Page was too drunk to play or even stand up. There was a night in Alpine Valley a former co-worker told me where they had to stop the gig a few songs in and they had to quit the show. These days some bands almost derail their careers over gigs like that b/c message boards and Twitter feeds spread the word. There were nights when Plant's voice was raspy and shot. And those nights would have become the rule rather than the exception if Bonham hadn't irresponsibily OD'd (fuck rock legend and mythology here, he fucked up royally rather than create more mystique with his death). Led Zeppelin were a fantastic, HUMAN band who had creative highs and lows (the lows were borderline aping, well fuck borderline they were straight up copyright infringement), good gigs and bad gigs, good studio takes and bad mixes, they had all of that shit. We just don't have them under a microscope at every turn like we do with PJ. And fuck Elvis too.

I'll take "too drunk to play" over some of the stuff that PJ passes off.

Is PJ really under the microscope much more than Zeppelin? Zeppelin was the biggest band, so there were plenty of people pushing the negative shit. PJ basically has a bunch of ass kissing fans that gloss over their live sloppiness. I've listened to alot of Zeppelin boots and there was some sloppiness, but I've never heard the trainwrecks that I have on PJ boots.

If you like PJ more, fine. Just don't pretend like they belong in the same conversations about great bands that Zeppelin does.

Led Zeppelin is unquestionably the more influential and important band, but I do think Pearl Jam wrote better music.

[Mine]

I agree that it's ultimately a band's studio work which will define how good they were for all time.

This is, or should be, obvious.

I agree. But there's a surprising amount of PJ fans who will judge their albums (positively and negatively) based on the apparent fact that they are "really a live band anyway". Which is moot, because all bands are live bands, if they play live.

Those fans aren't exactly paying them a compliment. It's like saying their music more or less sucks but they put on a great show.

Also ever since reading people whore themselves for tickets i have a really hard time taking a certain kind of compliments seriously.

wat

I have been on both boards for many years. I can give an honest view of both forums. The 10club forum have a lot of posters who don't know much about the band beyond Eddie Vedder. I have met people who have been a fan since the early 90's who have no idea who Stone Gossard is. Several members are more into pre-parties for the shows than the actual concerts, yet they will do anything to get tickets near the front including fuck one another.


This board has music lovers. And assholes.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/posting ... 5&p=173564

[Lament]

someone needs to post that Kevin davis quote. i forget who has it in their sig.

remod:

You can either side with me, who is one of the classiest and most discerning people on RM, or you can side with warehouse, who is named after a Dave Matthews song and whose posts look like an eighth grade girl's text messages.-- Kevin Davis

Pure gold. I'll raise a toast to that...

[Jorge]

Have you noticed how Juno Temple is almost always naked in movies

I met her father this year and almost wanted to ask about it. Like how you sometimes get the urge to jump in front of an oncoming train?