Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

[bada]

Any min now Ms Harmless will change her mind. So close guys.

[Mickey]

I for one believe that this thread could get significantly sillier.

[Anders]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

[Strat]

Sometimes violence is warranted. THis situation it was not. It was a ridiculous choice by Will Smith and even he regrets it.

This whole thing is absurdly silly but i guess welcome to the internet.

Is there a discussion here about Jada even needing a man to stand up for her? Isn't she a strong and capable woman herself? is there not some absurdity in thinking a man needs to stand up for his woman in this day and age?

Will Smith acted ridiculous. Its fine she was offended, its fine he was offended, its fine that will wanted to react. Its completely ridiculous he laughed, gave pause, then spent what felt like an eternity walking up to the stage to assault Chris Rock on an international broadcast. he had plenty of time to calm down, correct himself, and handle it differently. Im not even talking about morality, offensive jokes, or all the other issues that have arisen in this so dumb conversation. he acted a bit like a psychopath. He made a mistake. Fine. He had waited his entire life for this oscar winning moment. he has lobbied for it for as long as he's been acting. He was going to have his night. Another crazy layer on top of this is that he still was unable to not cause such a remarkably insane scene and thus completely negating any talk about a potentially wonderful acting performance and career highlight. Its all so crazy.

And super dumb.

He should have won for Men in Black anyway.

[wease]

Grover is a poor man's Gonzo.

You sunnavabitch. You take that back.

I won't budge on this.

Grover was first. How can he be derivative of anything that came after?

[tree_]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

[Mickey]

Grover is a poor man's Gonzo.

You sunnavabitch. You take that back.

I won't budge on this.

Grover was first. How can he be derivative of anything that came after?

First is the worst, whereas second is the best. And third? Don't get me started on third.

[bada]

Grover is a poor man's Gonzo.

You sunnavabitch. You take that back.

I won't budge on this.

Grover was first. How can he be derivative of anything that came after?

Time travel.

[BurtReynolds]

Just get to 100 pages. That's all I ask.

[Ms Harmless]

Any min now Ms Harmless will change her mind. So close guys.

my original position was "Chris deserved it"

it remains the same

[tree_]

Any min now Ms Harmless will change her mind. So close guys.

my original position was "Chris deserved it"

it remains the same

I can't imagine how low the bar is. You probably think more people deserve violence than don't.

[Mickey]

Okay I'm gonna take a few positions here that should help:

Violence is often warranted, but the problem with the slap is that it was not violence, or not violent enough.

Also Will Smith was doing sexism and patriarchy.

Oh also Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is being an assimilationist.

[wease]

We all have different backgrounds and different life experiences, and that gives us different perspectives. What is right for one is not right for another. But we have to live together. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful.

And we all need to have the basic understanding that words do not condone violence. Which is why speech is legal and violence is not. There are certain rules we follow that we all understand benefit us all.

We don't all have to agree. And we're not all going to agree. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful

yep, absolutely

these were very like Tree's words to me a few days ago

I don't care who disagrees with me; I do care that things I think or say aren't mocked and called uneducated or unreasonable; one is debate, the other is bullying

You’re worried about being bullied while defending Will Smith going out of his way to smack the shit out of another man for making a joke he didn’t like. Wow.

Chris Rock is a bully, so yeah

if you'd call them both bullies, that's reasonable, but just Will? nah

Rock bullied, Will reacted

I have one story in my life of getting back at a bully; it's a good story lol

So jokes a standup comic makes about another person is bullying?

[Ms Harmless]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

[Malloy]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

[wease]

Grover is a poor man's Gonzo.

You sunnavabitch. You take that back.

I won't budge on this.

Grover was first. How can he be derivative of anything that came after?

Time travel.

He IS Super Grover.

[bada]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

He had it coming.

[Mickey]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

[Ms Harmless]

We all have different backgrounds and different life experiences, and that gives us different perspectives. What is right for one is not right for another. But we have to live together. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful.

And we all need to have the basic understanding that words do not condone violence. Which is why speech is legal and violence is not. There are certain rules we follow that we all understand benefit us all.

We don't all have to agree. And we're not all going to agree. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful

yep, absolutely

these were very like Tree's words to me a few days ago

I don't care who disagrees with me; I do care that things I think or say aren't mocked and called uneducated or unreasonable; one is debate, the other is bullying

You’re worried about being bullied while defending Will Smith going out of his way to smack the shit out of another man for making a joke he didn’t like. Wow.

Chris Rock is a bully, so yeah

if you'd call them both bullies, that's reasonable, but just Will? nah

Rock bullied, Will reacted

I have one story in my life of getting back at a bully; it's a good story lol

So jokes a standup comic makes about another person is bullying?

yes, countless shitty comedians are bullies; I watch very little comedy anymore because so much of it is based on cruelty

[Ms Harmless]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no