Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

[wease]

We all have different backgrounds and different life experiences, and that gives us different perspectives. What is right for one is not right for another. But we have to live together. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful.

And we all need to have the basic understanding that words do not condone violence. Which is why speech is legal and violence is not. There are certain rules we follow that we all understand benefit us all.

We don't all have to agree. And we're not all going to agree. That makes life hard, but it also makes life beautiful

yep, absolutely

these were very like Tree's words to me a few days ago

I don't care who disagrees with me; I do care that things I think or say aren't mocked and called uneducated or unreasonable; one is debate, the other is bullying

You’re worried about being bullied while defending Will Smith going out of his way to smack the shit out of another man for making a joke he didn’t like. Wow.

Chris Rock is a bully, so yeah

if you'd call them both bullies, that's reasonable, but just Will? nah

Rock bullied, Will reacted

I have one story in my life of getting back at a bully; it's a good story lol

So jokes a standup comic makes about another person is bullying?

yes, countless shitty comedians are bullies; I watch very little comedy anymore because so much of it is based on cruelty

Wow

[warehouse]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

[tree_]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

[Malloy]

ignatiev is as ever instructive; you can’t the bait and not get caught on the hook.

now reel me in & dispatch me to a styrofoam cooler

[Ms Harmless]

Any min now Ms Harmless will change her mind. So close guys.

my original position was "Chris deserved it"

it remains the same

I can't imagine how low the bar is. You probably think more people deserve violence than don't.

it really depends on context

now for a riddle...

[Mickey]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

[Ms Harmless]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

[The Argonaut]

She sees things differently from you, tree. Hard to believe, I know. But maybe you're not right about everything, ever think of that?

[Malloy]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

i made that joke for you

[Ms Harmless]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

[Malloy]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

[Jorge]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

Norway

[Ms Harmless]

[warehouse]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

Norway

[tree_]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

[Ms Harmless]

"you don't know it was ableism" - Tree

[BurtReynolds]

I'm Team Harmless now

[Mickey]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

[Ms Harmless]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

[tree_]

"you don't know it was ableism" - Tree

a·ble·ism
/ˈābəˌlizəm/
noun
discrimination in favor of able-bodied people.

yes..?? Can you tell me how Chris Rock was discriminating against an able-bodied person?